Wall-E

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No, that was not my point, and if it was not clear in my original post it was later clarified in this roundabout with you. I never argued Disney doesn't own and market it, but you have ignored the things I have argued, which is the problem.

you ignore the fact that those elements are huge elements and play them off like nothing, disney are a huge part of making it happen, they run the whole show...its disney.

I don't care who owns it, all evidence points to Pixar retaining creative control of the product since it is still so much like their pre-Disney work.

Which pre disney work are you refering too? Why don't you care who owns it, it makes a huge difference. And what makes you think pixar retaining creative control is entirely down to pixar why can't it be what disney chose, why would they want to infringe upon something successful, disney as a hugely successful business can make good business choices obviously.

You're just taking my "it's not Disney" too literally.

Well you literally said its not disney...and are now literally saying it is disney?

I know it literally is Disney, but I find the quality of Pixar's work both before and after their relationship with Disney to be different and thus recommendable to people who aren't fans of Disney normally.

Yes it is literally disney, well done. And once again i will say there is a lot of variety within disney stuff and a lot of people will hate some and like other stuff. They utilise a lot of different stuff to make lots of different flavours of disney, pixar is just another flavour of disney, something else they have incorperated to put on the menu. Them owning it makes it a flavour of disney to choose from.

That is my point, and what you are arguing is something different entirely.

Not really, i was and seem to continue to have to illustrate that regardless of your "point" its still disney.

I wouldn't recommend it to people who don't like what Disney stands for and don't want to financially support them, but for someone who don't typically like their style, this could be enjoyable.

Thats wonderful to know, its still disney.

That what my point is and has been, so I just don't see the point bringing out the Disney board meeting minutes over it.

And my point is that regardless of your "point" its still disney. I haven't brought out any board meeting minutes, perhaps you were reading something else.

It's never been about where you can buy the merchandising or who signs the checks, I'm talking about who might like the movie.

Those things were mentioned because they a) illustrate disneys huge play in everything and b) because thats what disney is. But you were just talking about who would like that wonderful disney film!

Sorry that hasn't been made clear enough yet, but I've spent the last few posts trying to explain that we're not talking about the same things.

You don't have to appologise, you probably can't help it, you just weren't able to realise that my point is your point doesn't matter, its still disney.

It's probable you're going to beat this dead horse a bit more, and more power to you- but I'm clearly not conveying well enough to you what I'm talking about to have an effective discussion for either of us, so I'll stop trying.

I'm beating your horse one last time to say exactly the same thing i have said in each post, maybe the penny will drop for you maybe it won't. but it was really wonderful repeating myself for you, but yes, its probably best you stop trying.

[mrjoe815]

I still need to buy this!! That little dude is cute haha

[xAllTheRagex]

Disney store is the coolest place. Loads of Wall-E merch to play with. ^^
Brilliant film anyway.

[linsee]

Disney store is the coolest place. Loads of Wall-E merch to play with. ^^
Brilliant film anyway.

I absolutely hate the Disney store but I did have to go in there to buy a Christmas gift for my friend's little dude. And it's definitely a Wall-E toy.

[CarlaRant]

Saw it last night. Totally cute and it has a interesting socio-political message.