Whats your guys opinion on edge militant

xplan_Bx · 04-26-2010, 01:49 PM

He doesn't care. People come and go, SE one day then life happens and then they are not and when the realize they are fuck ups and want to be sober.....guess what? WELCOME BACK with a hug. No harm no foul.

**xsecx** · 04-26-2010, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by xplan_Bx

He doesn't care. People come and go, SE one day then life happens and then they are not and when the realize they are fuck ups and want to be sober.....guess what? WELCOME BACK with a hug. No harm no foul.

hitting the quote button is useful so we know who you're talking to.

xplan_Bx · 04-26-2010, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by xsecx

I don't see how it's a mockery or a joke, any more than I see other people getting divorced a mockery or a joke of my marriage. I don't see how/why I should care about it the way you two do.

Maybe you should be the sober guy not the SE guy, maybe an AA sponsor or something postive like that. We maintain the scene we keep it what it was and should always be. Straight Edge, True Till Death. Not Straight Edge, True till life happens, then Back to Straight Edge then True till life happens.....well you get the point.

**x_dannyb_X** · 04-26-2010, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by xsecx

I don't see how it's a mockery or a joke, any more than I see other people getting divorced a mockery or a joke of my marriage. I don't see how/why I should care about it the way you two do.

im just trying to understand why you feel the way you do. so far it seems you dont care about anything, which i know is not true. so im trying to understand why you became straight edge in the first place? what do you do in your community to influence others? do you support your community? by the way, dont get mad. im just asking you questions.

xplan_Bx · 04-26-2010, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by xsecx

hitting the quote button is useful so we know who you're talking to.

I am talking about you.

**xsecx** · 04-26-2010, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by xplan_Bx

Maybe you should be the sober guy not the SE guy, maybe an AA sponsor or something postive like that. We maintain the scene we keep it what it was and should always be. Straight Edge, True Till Death. Not Straight Edge, True till life happens, then Back to Straight Edge then True till life happens.....well you get the point.

yeah, except that what you're saying isn't really reflected in the population.

**xsecx** · 04-26-2010, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by xplan_Bx

I am talking about you.

good, then you can explain to me what harm is actually caused then.

xplan_Bx · 04-26-2010, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by x_dannyb_X

im just trying to understand why you feel the way you do. so far it seems you dont care about anything, which i know is not true. so im trying to understand why you became straight edge in the first place? what do you do in your community to influence others? do you support your community? by the way, dont get mad. im just asking you questions.

Noone is mad, In SE there are all verying different levels of dedication, I just like to debate and see what other SEers are all about. We are all just on different sides of the SE spectrum of living. Some keep it simple with no drinking, no smoking, no drugs. Others go no caffiene, vegans, no RX meds no crazy sexcapades. So on so forth. We are all at different levels we are a little more involved and dedicated than he.

**xsecx** · 04-26-2010, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by x_dannyb_X

im just trying to understand why you feel the way you do. so far it seems you dont care about anything, which i know is not true. so im trying to understand why you became straight edge in the first place? what do you do in your community to influence others? do you support your community? by the way, dont get mad. im just asking you questions.

because through the 20 or so years I've been straight edge, I've known an awful lot of people who claimed when they were too young to have any clue about who they were, what they believed or what they were about just to sell out when they get older. I've also known a good percentage of those same people get older and realize that being straight edge is important to them and something they want to be. I don't really understand how you think that me not agreeing with you somehow equates to me not caring. I think that your viewpoint is contradictory, unrealistic and doesn't really reflect the reality in the scene. And dude, you do realize this is my website right?

xplan_Bx · 04-26-2010, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by xsecx

good, then you can explain to me what harm is actually caused then.

It hurts the scene, it hurts the crews, it hurts the message, it hurts me. It sends the wrong message that its ok to break edge and come back, and its not. This is a life long commitment.

**xsecx** · 04-26-2010, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by xplan_Bx

It hurts the scene, it hurts the crews, it hurts the message, it hurts me. It sends the wrong message that its ok to break edge and come back, and its not. This is a life long commitment.

again with the rhetoric. HOW does it hurt you? How does it hurt the message?

If you get divorced, are you never going to marry again?

xplan_Bx · 04-26-2010, 02:10 PM

Well I am not going to get divorced so that is not in any equation. I told my wife I will love her till death do us part. And by God thats what the hell I meant. And I know what you will say next.... well you never know what life will bring. I do, a long happy life with my wife and kids. And it hurts the scene because it sends the message that SE is a joke. Not a serious group of people dedicated to living there lives way outside the norm of the everyday dude. It hurts me because it mocks what I have dedicated my life too.

**x_dannyb_X** · 04-26-2010, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by xsecx

because through the 20 or so years I've been straight edge, I've known an awful lot of people who claimed when they were too young to have any clue about who they were, what they believed or what they were about just to sell out when they get older. I've also known a good percentage of those same people get older and realize that being straight edge is important to them and something they want to be. I don't really understand how you think that me not agreeing with you somehow equates to me not caring. I think that your viewpoint is contradictory, unrealistic and doesn't really reflect the reality in the scene. And dude, you do realize this is my website right?

ok calm down mr. this is my website, we all have jobs. now im just asking questions about you and your views. thats all.

and if im too loyal and being straight edge is what i hold dear to my heart is wrong and thats not what the sene is about, then i dont want to be apart of your sene. because i know its what its about else where.

now on to you mr. dusty, i dont think you even know what the sene is anymore. i think you are too afraid that you are not in an active roll in the sene anymore. other than running a website out of your basement at the age of 30 something.

**xsecx** · 04-26-2010, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by xplan_Bx

Well I am not going to get divorced so that is not in any equation. I told my wife I will love her till death do us part. And by God thats what the hell I meant. And I know what you will say next.... well you never know what life will bring. I do, a long happy life with my wife and kids. And it hurts the scene because it sends the message that SE is a joke. Not a serious group of people dedicated to living there lives way outside the norm of the everyday dude. It hurts me because it mocks what I have dedicated my life too.

You didn't answer the question.

How does people who are involved in it, at any given point in time, that are completely and totally sincere about their life, make a joke of it? How does that mock anything? I guess I don't see why you care so much about how other people are living their lives, especially people who made the decision to live sober.