iowa caucus

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who do you think is going to win?

I'm honestly hoping rev al will come from behind and shock the world.

[flame_still_burns]

i have no idea. one minute howard dean has a big lead, the next it's a dead heat. i need to research these guys so i can figure out who i'm pulling for.

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Originally posted by flame_still_burns
i have no idea. one minute howard dean has a big lead, the next it's a dead heat. i need to research these guys so i can figure out who i'm pulling for.

it's pretty much a moot point for me since I'm a registered independent so I can't vote in primaries. orginally I was all about dean but now I'm wondering if it's because of what actually believes or if it's just because he was going after bush's jugular.

[flame_still_burns]

i like that dean publicly spoke out about the iraqi war. but he seems stiff as a board.

[xvunderx]

I can't vote period here, and I'm not sure if I can vote in the UK either.

[Sean The Red]

Originally posted by flame_still_burns
i like that dean publicly spoke out about the iraqi war. but he seems stiff as a board.

....am I to understand you are looking for a politician with personality?

[Sean The Red]

Originally posted by xvunderx
I can't vote period here, and I'm not sure if I can vote in the UK either.

I would expect you could vote in the UK, since you are still a citizen, living elsewhere shouldnt effect it...

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Originally posted by Sean The Red
I would expect you could vote in the UK, since you are still a citizen, living elsewhere shouldnt effect it...

I think where you live does effect it, seeing as they need to have your address for your polling card.

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Originally posted by Sean The Red
I would expect you could vote in the UK, since you are still a citizen, living elsewhere shouldnt effect it...

except that their political structure is completely and totally different from ours.

[XprennaX]

If I was gonna vote in the US election I would vote for Dennis Kucinich but I'm not so I won't.

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Originally posted by XprennaX
If I was gonna vote in the US election I would vote for Dennis Kucinich but I'm not so I won't.

why would you vote for the elf from ohio?

[flame_still_burns]

Originally posted by xsecx
why would you vote for the elf from ohio?

he's vegan. that's why i'd vote for him.

[XprennaX]

Originally posted by xsecx
why would you vote for the elf from ohio?

Well, having read through his platform I agree with almost everything he stands for. I mean the guy is completely anti-WTO which scores major points in my book. He is also vegan which is a nice bonus.

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Originally posted by XprennaX
Well, having read through his platform I agree with almost everything he stands for. I mean the guy is completely anti-WTO which scores major points in my book. He is also vegan which is a nice bonus.

yeah, but his voting record is spoty. and has flipped his beliefs.

[Sean The Red]

Originally posted by xsecx
yeah, but his voting record is spoty. and has flipped his beliefs.

are you trying to pin a politician down for their voting record? That is like trying to ask a horse for directions, all youre going to get is a long stare, and lots of grunts as responses to questions.

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Originally posted by Sean The Red
are you trying to pin a politician down for their voting record? That is like trying to ask a horse for directions, all youre going to get is a long stare, and lots of grunts as responses to questions.

yeah because there's a better way to tell the difference between what someone says they believe and how they put those beliefs in action?

[Sean The Red]

Originally posted by xsecx
yeah because there's a better way to tell the difference between what someone says they believe and how they put those beliefs in action?

heh, the only thing they believe in is how much they want to get into the office they run for. If you ever believe the things coming out of a politicians mouth, you need help.

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Originally posted by Sean The Red
heh, the only thing they believe in is how much they want to get into the office they run for. If you ever believe the things coming out of a politicians mouth, you need help.

what a useless cynical comment. if that's the case, then you need to change your sig.

[Sean The Red]

Originally posted by xsecx
what a useless cynical comment. if that's the case, then you need to change your sig.

can you think of a single elected official who is a member of the Communist Party USA? I can't, the reason why is that there arent any. Further, I fell I should say that there is a difference between grass roots political organizations, as opposed to the established ones. When you are at a grass roots level, you are involved because you do believe in it. However once you are established, people start to take notice and take advantage of it. Think of it like winning the lottery, people you havent heard from in years suddenly become your best friend... does my point make sense?

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Originally posted by Sean The Red
can you think of a single elected official who is a member of the Communist Party USA? I can't, the reason why is that there arent any. Further, I fell I should say that there is a difference between grass roots political organizations, as opposed to the established ones. When you are at a grass roots level, you are involved because you do believe in it. However once you are established, people start to take notice and take advantage of it. Think of it like winning the lottery, people you havent heard from in years suddenly become your best friend... does my point make sense?

regardless what makes you think you can trust any of them, since they are also politicians trying to gain political strength?

[Sean The Red]

Originally posted by xsecx
regardless what makes you think you can trust any of them, since they are also politicians trying to gain political strength?

because they dont have as much to lose. If they were on top, they would do what they felt necessary, to keep themselves where they are. However, while on the bottom, they dont have much to lose, so they can rally behind their beliefs.

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Originally posted by Sean The Red
because they dont have as much to lose. If they were on top, they would do what they felt necessary, to keep themselves where they are. However, while on the bottom, they dont have much to lose, so they can rally behind their beliefs.

so when you're trying to increase support you're less likely to pander than you are when you already have it? how does that make any sense?