Buddhism

[Xx-Ky-xX]

What do you think about buddhism.

Personaly i think it explains alot becasue if u live life without greed there wont be conflitics and we are all just just another form of energy that take up space on earth

[xgregx]

I love it. I wrote an essay on it. it is extremely interesting.

[Xx-Ky-xX]

i know it was so great when i first heard about it like 2 weeks ago. i think it is a good way to lead a life. Personaly if we take a few things from every religion and come up with 1 big one it would be the right reliong to follow

[straightXed]

Originally posted by Xx-Ky-xX
What do you think about buddhism.

Personaly i think it explains alot becasue if u live life without greed there wont be conflitics and we are all just just another form of energy that take up space on earth

I always wondered about buddhism, so its about being energy is it? A bit like the force in star wars or something?

[Xx-Ky-xX]

No, it just means you are just energy that takes space on earth and nothing more or less

[xdaddydaycorex]

Originally posted by straightXed
I always wondered about buddhism, so its about being energy is it? A bit like the force in star wars or something?

my father is a buddhist priest here in los angeles. i myself am not a buddhist , but i do however respect and align myself with some of the basic principles.
without getting too detailed here is a very brief desription of buddhist principles.

the buddha saw that the suffering we experience stems from craving. this is sometimes translated as desire. we go through life wanting this and not wanting that, always swayed by what we think will give us most satisfaction. the buddha wants us to stop for a moment and observe ourselves, something that right mindfulness aims to cultivate.
right mindfulness is one of the eight noble truths thought in buddhism. they are right understanding, right thought, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness and right concentration.
right understanding and right thought develop Wisdom. right speech, right livelihood and right action develop Morality. right effort, right mindfulness and right concentration develop Concentration.
in general a buddhist takes the "middle road" in life, one of no extremes. he is neither passive nor aggressive.

[xsecx]

Originally posted by xcyberkillx
my father is a buddhist priest here in los angeles. i myself am not a buddhist , but i do however respect and align myself with some of the basic principles.
without getting too detailed here is a very brief desription of buddhist principles.

the buddha saw that the suffering we experience stems from craving. this is sometimes translated as desire. we go through life wanting this and not wanting that, always swayed by what we think will give us most satisfaction. the buddha wants us to stop for a moment and observe ourselves, something that right mindfulness aims to cultivate.
right mindfulness is one of the eight noble truths thought in buddhism. they are right understanding, right thought, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness and right concentration.
right understanding and right thought develop Wisdom. right speech, right livelihood and right action develop Morality. right effort, right mindfulness and right concentration develop Concentration.
in general a buddhist takes the "middle road" in life, one of no extremes. he is neither passive nor aggressive.

what school?

[xdaddydaycorex]

Originally posted by xsecx
what school?

he holds ordinations in the Rinzai and Soto Zen traditions and is also a priest in the Zen Peacemaker Order.

he used to teach at the IBC (international buddhist center) but was kicked out for being to revolutionary and radical in his viewpoints and his desire to assimilate the buddhist tradtions into western culture something he believes is crucial in order for buddhism to truely have a positive and long term affect in our modern (western) culture.

[straightXed]

Originally posted by Xx-Ky-xX
No, it just means you are just energy that takes space on earth and nothing more or less

cool, i think i'm enlightened.

[Hc_chick]

with all respect for your opinions:

I don't think that any religion has a positive influence on a society or a culture. There are always people that are too extreme, which leads to disagreement and violence. I think that believing in any god is naïve. You should only trust on what you can see/feel/hear, those things that keep you alive are those that you should worship. Like your friends, family (if you can put up with them,which i can't) , music, occupations...Lots of things to chose from.

Excuses for my english

[straightXed]

Originally posted by Hc_chick
with all respect for your opinions:

I don't think that any religion has a positive influence on a society or a culture. There are always people that are too extreme, which leads to disagreement and violence. I think that believing in any god is naïve. You should only trust on what you can see/feel/hear, those things that keep you alive are those that you should worship. Like your friends, family (if you can put up with them,which i can't) , music, occupations...Lots of things to chose from.

Excuses for my english

agnostic and athiest views also carry extremists. seeing hearing and feeling are among our flawed human senses so how can you trust them. Worshipping external things like family and occupations is just as dangerous as worshiping as part of a belief system. People say bill gates is satan now if i worked for microsoft and worshipped my occupation surly we are right back to religion again. To make family have a position of deity in your life seems like belittling yourself, i would agree with holding your family and job with a fair regard but you must remember to be critical of your perception of them as well as being annalitical of your own thought procedures. Otherwise it becomes like a buffer for your personality to go through without your control and seemingly becomes just as much of a crutch as religion, at least thats my response.

[xsecx]

Originally posted by Hc_chick
with all respect for your opinions:

I don't think that any religion has a positive influence on a society or a culture. There are always people that are too extreme, which leads to disagreement and violence. I think that believing in any god is naïve. You should only trust on what you can see/feel/hear, those things that keep you alive are those that you should worship. Like your friends, family (if you can put up with them,which i can't) , music, occupations...Lots of things to chose from.

Excuses for my english

uh. buddhists don't believe in any kind of god.

[XprennaX]

Personally I've always liked the aesthetics and the simplicity of Zen buddhism. I just think that, as with many religions, any system which subjugates any aspect of human nature will lead to problems in the end and will be unworkable in the wider human population.

[xdaddydaycorex]

Originally posted by XprennaX
Personally I've always liked the aesthetics and the simplicity of Zen buddhism. I just think that, as with many religions, any system which subjugates any aspect of human nature will lead to problems in the end and will be unworkable in the wider human population.



what aspect of human nature does buddhism subjugate?

[XprennaX]

Originally posted by xcyberkillx
what aspect of human nature does buddhism subjugate?

Desire for one.

[xdaddydaycorex]

Originally posted by XprennaX
Desire for one.
buddism does not subjugate desire. it teaches one to observe and contemplate desire.

[XprennaX]

Originally posted by xcyberkillx
buddism does not subjugate desire. it teaches one to observe and contemplate desire.

It sees desire as being the source (or at least one of the sources) of the suffering inherent in life. It therefore seeks to control and reduce the amount of desire in a person thus reducing the suffering.

[xdaddydaycorex]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by XprennaX
It sees desire as being the source (or at least one of the sources) of the suffering inherent in life. It therefore seeks to control and reduce the amount of desire in a person thus reducing the suffering. [/QUOTE

just curious, but dont you think that sounds a little like something we all do .... being straightedge?
how is not drinking, not smoking , not doing drugs (not eating meat for some, not having sex for others) Not subjugating those desires no matter how strong or weak those desires may currently be or just how much we no longer feel for them? . i.e, we have controlled , or try to control the desire or need or want of them...thus have we not sought to subjugate these things in our lives?

to live a posi life one must exercise some degree of self control.

[XprennaX]

Originally posted by xcyberkillx
just curious, but dont you think that sounds a little like something we all do .... being straightedge?
how is not drinking, not smoking , not doing drugs (not eating meat for some, not having sex for others) Not subjugating those desires no matter how strong or weak those desires may currently be or just how much we no longer feel for them? . i.e, we have controlled , or try to control the desire or need or want of them...thus have we not sought to subjugate these things in our lives?

to live a posi life one must exercise some degree of self control. [/B]

I don't see it like that. If I wanted to take drugs, smoke, drink or whatever I would do. I'm only straightedge because it's what works for me right now and for the forseeable future. There is no conflicting urge to not be edge.

[xdaddydaycorex]

Originally posted by XprennaX
I don't see it like that. If I wanted to take drugs, smoke, drink or whatever I would do. I'm only straightedge because it's what works for me right now and for the forseeable future. There is no conflicting urge to not be edge.
what urges do you see buddhism subjugating?

[Straightedgecat]

i respect buddhism very much.. my family persinally we dont take any religion by name.. we are thinking about joining a unitarian universalist church. but we do believe strongly in the buddhist foundations.. i respect buddhism alot and expessially the part that mentions reincarnation but not like hinduism were you must go into a higher or lower "Caste"