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xdaddydaycorex

10-01-2004, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by xsecx
wow. bush really can't answer direct questions.

i agree....same answer for everything..."he's too indecisive...he changed his position....he's too indecisive..."

HOWever...what the fuck was up with kerry NEVER looking into the camera while answering the questions and he kept saying "Jim...this,,, Jim that.....I MEAN FUCK JOHN, YOUR SUPPOSED TO BE TALKING TO US!!!!!! he's just asking you questions for US!!!!....I can't believe kerrys' people didnt tell him to look into the camera .....only at the closing statement did he look into our / the cameras' eye!!! its the little things like this that the republicans have down...bush was right there ....lame as hell...but right there...and while he never said antything of substance and never answered anything HE KEPT SAYING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER....and kids i hate to tell you, but the people will start to believe anything if they hear it over and over again. we are so screwed!!!!

DcDuckee

10-01-2004, 01:31 PM

kerry seemed a lot more confident then bush though. yeah and bush said he didnt keep his position over and over again. i was like what the crap

xdaddydaycorex

10-01-2004, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by DcDuckee
kerry seemed a lot more confident then bush though. yeah and bush said he didnt keep his position over and over again. i was like what the crap

kerry; informed, educated, articulate, yes. Confident......i didn't get that as much, again i never saw his eyes or intensity until the closing statement.

bush; redundant, childlike, inarticulate, yes.
unfortunately bush; confident, cocky, knows how to play the game....also yes.

DcDuckee

10-01-2004, 01:56 PM

Did you notice how the camera angles made it appear as though they were the same height but if you looked at the difference between the mics. i

xsecx

10-01-2004, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by DcDuckee
Did you notice how the camera angles made it appear as though they were the same height but if you looked at the difference between the mics. i

yeah that's because in 2000 gore stepped out from behind the podium and made bush feel small.

DcDuckee

10-01-2004, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by xsecx
yeah that's because in 2000 gore stepped out from behind the podium and made bush feel small.

i heard it was because usually taller presidents win or something? but gore was taller so i dunno

xdaddydaycorex

10-01-2004, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by DcDuckee
Did you notice how the camera angles made it appear as though they were the same height but if you looked at the difference between the mics. i

oh yeah to make them fill the same space they had to bring bush way up close...and thus his face was even bigger than kerry, which is amazing since kerry has like a gargantuan horse head ...but in the frame he seemed farther away and kinda skinny.

xdaddydaycorex

10-01-2004, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by DcDuckee
i heard it was because usually taller presidents win or something? but gore was taller so i dunno

gore won. he just wasn't elected.

xsecx

10-01-2004, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by DcDuckee
i heard it was because usually taller presidents win or something? but gore was taller so i dunno

nah. it was part of the 32 page contract of things tehy can and can't do.

DcDuckee

10-01-2004, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by XracerX
oh yeah to make them fill the same space they had to bring bush way up close...and thus his face was even bigger than kerry, which is amazing since kerry has like a gargantuan horse head ...but in the frame he seemed farther away and kinda skinny.

and i also heard something about bush always looking uninterested and would look at his watch when debating but i didnt see him do that. or atleast not that i can remember

noman

10-01-2004, 02:52 PM

plain out in simple im gonna say this....bush is a total asshole that prolly is actually a puppet being controlled by a more intelligent president that actually was determined years ago....kerry isnot goin to win...bush is bein payed off....therefore our goverment is corrupt..if im right about what i think then were lookin at a dictatorship in about 12 years or so.

xsecx

10-01-2004, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by noman
plain out in simple im gonna say this....bush is a total asshole that prolly is actually a puppet being controlled by a more intelligent president that actually was determined years ago....kerry isnot goin to win...bush is bein payed off....therefore our goverment is corrupt..if im right about what i think then were lookin at a dictatorship in about 12 years or so.

and you're basing all of this on?

Sean The Red

10-02-2004, 04:12 AM

xdaddydaycorex

10-02-2004, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by Sean The Red
better be careful. If you keep that kind of talk up, you'll end up fitting in with the crazies here in santa cruz before you know it.

ah ha thats how you know the prices of west cliff properties. nice. what school you at? i was uc, porter college. lived on san jose ave 5 houses from derby park. yeah i know what you mean about crazies but i always thought the local blue collar construction surf types and the conservative yuppies rounded out the city quite well. damn, santa cruz...california at it's finest...you're one lucky commie.

DcDuckee

10-04-2004, 10:00 AM

today on the radio i heard that people said kerry won the debate 57% to 25% or something

veganedge

10-05-2004, 05:57 PM

I personally felt it was more like 100% to 0% bumbling idiot.... "uh.... (long pause).....you keep changing you position!.... (no supporting statements)"

xdaddydaycorex

10-05-2004, 08:25 PM

Originally posted by veganedge
I personally felt it was more like 100% to 0% bumbling idiot.... "uh.... (long pause).....you keep changing you position!.... (no supporting statements)"

yeah but the american people love AND respond to repetition, repetition, repetition. and most will only remember....."you keep changing your position...." and you know what....that's what they're going to hear in their heads when they go to vote too

bumbling idiot , YES.
a bumbling idiot who knows how to get reelected.

Sean The Red

10-05-2004, 10:43 PM

Originally posted by XracerX
ah ha thats how you know the prices of west cliff properties. nice. what school you at? i was uc, porter college. lived on san jose ave 5 houses from derby park. yeah i know what you mean about crazies but i always thought the local blue collar construction surf types and the conservative yuppies rounded out the city quite well. damn, santa cruz...california at it's finest...you're one lucky commie.

One lucky local commie.

veganedge

10-07-2004, 10:59 PM

yeah but the american people love AND respond to repetition, repetition, repetition. and most will only remember....."you keep changing your position...." and you know what....that's what they're going to hear in their heads when they go to vote too

I don't know man, it'll be close... I know the masses think like that, but I'm hearing a ton of anti-bush all around and not jsut in the "underground" anymore.... it's coming. The revolution is not as far away as I once thought.

DcDuckee

10-08-2004, 07:51 AM

Originally posted by veganedge
I don't know man, it'll be close... I know the masses think like that, but I'm hearing a ton of anti-bush all around and not jsut in the "underground" anymore.... it's coming. The revolution is not as far away as I once thought.

i dont think it has been underground for a while, but i still think bush has such a good chance of being re elected

xdaddydaycorex

10-08-2004, 01:15 PM

sOriginally posted by veganedge
I don't know man, it'll be close... I know the masses think like that, but I'm hearing a ton of anti-bush all around and not jsut in the "underground" anymore.... it's coming. The revolution is not as far away as I once thought.

regarding the election of kerry over bush, i really don't see that happening, but i would love to be wrong.
regarding the revolution, its' already been bought and sold to the highest bidder, i think FOX owns the rights.

veganedge

10-10-2004, 04:47 PM

its' already been bought and sold to the highest bidder, i think FOX owns the rights.

what are you talking about?

xdaddydaycorex

10-12-2004, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by veganedge
what are you talking about?
you've never heard the term "the revolution will not be televised"? well, it will be , thus exploiting and profiting from it while at the same time mimimalizing it to a series of sound sound bites spoken by overpaid "actors" on cnn. and besides ,if the democrates win that will hardly constitute a revolution anyway.
in regards to FOX...see OutFoxed the movie.
http://www.outfoxed.org/

http://www.outfoxed.org/images/ofx_poster.jpg

Sean The Red

10-13-2004, 03:06 AM

Originally posted by XracerX
you've never heard the term "the revolution will not be televised"? well, it will be , thus exploiting and profiting from it while at the same time mimimalizing it to a series of sound sound bites spoken by overpaid "actors" on cnn. and besides ,if the democrates win that will hardly constitute a revolution anyway.
in regards to FOX...see OutFoxed the movie.
http://www.outfoxed.org/

http://www.outfoxed.org/images/ofx_poster.jpg

what the hell did you just try to say?

xdaddydaycorex

10-13-2004, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by Sean The Red
what the hell did you just try to say?

well it started with this;
"regarding the election of kerry over bush, i really don't see that happening, but i would love to be wrong.
regarding the revolution, its' already been bought and sold to the highest bidder, i think FOX owns the rights."

the revolution part was supposed to be joke. but when she asked what i meant, insted of just saying "joke" i tried to explain the "ideas/references/and current political climate" that the joke sprouted from. obviouly i should have just let it stop at the joke, which no one seems to have gotten, probably cause it wasn't a very good one.

straightXed

10-13-2004, 04:54 PM

the television will not be revoloutionised.

xsecx

10-13-2004, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by straightXed
the television will not be revoloutionised.

tell that to high defintion tv.

veganedge

10-14-2004, 11:56 PM

first of all what makes you automatically assume I am a womyn? Second, I don't consider kerry being elected over bush a revolution. My mind was moving to a different thought, I guess I didn't explain it well enough....

DcDuckee

10-15-2004, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by XracerX
you've never heard the term "the revolution will not be televised"?

cant you see by the look in our eyes? that the rock revolution wont be televised!!

yay for piebald

Gryphon

10-15-2004, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by veganedge
first of all what makes you automatically assume I am a womyn? Second, I don't consider kerry being elected over bush a revolution. My mind was moving to a different thought, I guess I didn't explain it well enough....

I dont think that Kerry getting elected over bush as a revolution either but I would bet that if Bush got re-elected and there was any funny buisness about it like in the 2000 election then there sure as hell would be a Revolution. I know I would be right in there doing my bit

xsecx

10-15-2004, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by Gryphon
I dont think that Kerry getting elected over bush as a revolution either but I would bet that if Bush got re-elected and there was any funny buisness about it like in the 2000 election then there sure as hell would be a Revolution. I know I would be right in there doing my bit

are you stockpiling weapons now?

Gryphon

10-15-2004, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by xsecx
are you stockpiling weapons now?

=D no I am more of a "if it happens then doing something about it" kind of person

xsecx

10-15-2004, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by Gryphon
=D no I am more of a "if it happens then doing something about it" kind of person

but all the good ones will be gone by then.

Gryphon

10-15-2004, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by xsecx
but all the good ones will be gone by then.

Not all of them.. The family owned ones will still be avaliable. I'd just rather not have anything to do with them till it became necessary.. I know how to shoot, I have done target practice, but I would never hunt with a gun.

xsecx

10-15-2004, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by Gryphon
Not all of them.. The family owned ones will still be avaliable. I'd just rather not have anything to do with them till it became necessary.. I know how to shoot, I have done target practice, but I would never hunt with a gun.

the revolution will require assault weapons. I think you're being a half ass.

Gryphon

10-15-2004, 04:39 PM

Originally posted by xsecx
the revolution will require assault weapons. I think you're being a half ass.

Not if you have an AK in the family stock pile.

xsecx

10-15-2004, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by Gryphon
Not if you have an AK in the family stock pile.

which isn't very likely. half asserie. now get thyself some assault weapon, caster beans and fertilizer stat!

Gryphon

10-15-2004, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by xsecx
which isn't very likely. half asserie. now get thyself some assault weapon, caster beans and fertilizer stat!

Heh, ok ok, we have one AK 47, I guess it couldnt hurt to get a few more or change it up with a famas or M4A1 somewhere in there...

You stock piled then?

xsecx

10-15-2004, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by Gryphon
Heh, ok ok, we have one AK 47, I guess it couldnt hurt to get a few more or change it up with a famas or M4A1 somewhere in there...

You stock piled then?

due to proximity that I live from the pentagon I refuse to answer.