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straightXed
09-06-2004, 07:14 PM
http://pixla.px.cz/pentagon.swf
noman
09-12-2004, 11:31 AM
::deadlink:: can i hear about this one.... τΏτ
straightXed
09-12-2004, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by noman
::deadlink:: can i hear about this one.... τΏτ

its not dead for me, try it again and wait a while, it did take about a minute to load.
noman
09-12-2004, 02:08 PM
still not loading :-\
straightXed
09-12-2004, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by noman
still not loading :-\

you got flash installed?
noman
09-12-2004, 02:14 PM
yeah
straightXed
09-12-2004, 02:17 PM
Is anyone else having problems with this?
unspoken
09-12-2004, 02:19 PM
me
straightXed
09-12-2004, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by unspoken
me

and you have flash installed i take it?
unspoken
09-12-2004, 02:27 PM
it worked now

i was just impatient
straightXed
09-12-2004, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by unspoken
it worked now

i was just impatient

there you go, its probably just you noman, make sure you have flash installed after that i can't help you i don't think.
veganedge
09-21-2004, 07:59 PM
Is this about how it wasn't a plane??? This is definately true, they haven't released any footage showing what it was... the whole was a perfect circle... there was no debri or wreckage from an aircraft..... there were no marks on ground from plane crash.... on and on.....
straightXed
09-21-2004, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by veganedge
Is this about how it wasn't a plane??? This is definately true, they haven't released any footage showing what it was... the whole was a perfect circle... there was no debri or wreckage from an aircraft..... there were no marks on ground from plane crash.... on and on.....

the idea of conspiracy theorys is to make them completely believable.
xsecx
09-21-2004, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by veganedge
Is this about how it wasn't a plane??? This is definately true, they haven't released any footage showing what it was... the whole was a perfect circle... there was no debri or wreckage from an aircraft..... there were no marks on ground from plane crash.... on and on.....

I have yeti in my basement. he's with hitler. and elvis.
straightXed
09-21-2004, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by xsecx
I have yeti in my basement. he's with hitler. and elvis.

pass me the aluminum foil, i wanna meet elvis
xsecx
09-21-2004, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by straightXed
pass me the aluminum foil, i wanna meet elvis

dude. then you can hide from the cia.

the shit that amazes me is that people will honestly believe what you hand them. they ignore all the sane evidence. the don't question if all this other shit is true, what happened to the plane. they've probably never been by the pentagon to realize just how in the middle of everything it is. and how it'd be impossible to cover this up.

ps it was missles and not 2 planes that flew into the trade center and bombs were used to bring them down.
veganedge
09-21-2004, 11:12 PM
so... you believe a plane did crash into the pentagon?
xsecx
09-22-2004, 07:24 AM
Originally posted by veganedge
so... you believe a plane did crash into the pentagon?

I know a plane crashed into the pentagon.
veganedge
09-22-2004, 01:17 PM
how's that?
xsecx
09-22-2004, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by veganedge
how's that?

because I saw the wreckage and I know many many people that witnessed it first hand.
light_jk
09-22-2004, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by xsecx
because I saw the wreckage and I know many many people that witnessed it first hand.
I got no problem with the idea that there was a crash, but you have to admit the whole thing was awfully convenient for Bush and Co., since it diverted attention away from what they had planned for the environment, human rights, Big Business, etc.

I mean has anybody noticed how many political prisoners the US has locked away now, or how drastically environmental regulations have been rolled back?
veganedge
09-28-2004, 01:57 PM
because I saw the wreckage and I know many many people that witnessed it first hand

well, I know absolutely nobody from there and have no proof at all, so that vid pretty much describes all I know... That's what I base my thinking off of. If I had other proof I would think other wise. It's just I have none, so I know nothing.
xsecx
09-28-2004, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by veganedge
well, I know absolutely nobody from there and have no proof at all, so that vid pretty much describes all I know... That's what I base my thinking off of. If I had other proof I would think other wise. It's just I have none, so I know nothing.

yeah but there's other footage. when people are putting stuff like that out they tend to leave out anything that doesn't fit within their agenda. one of my friends took a hell of a lot of pictures because he was right by the pentagon when it happened. because of that video he now has tons of people caling and emailing him telling him he's a liar.
straightXed
09-28-2004, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by veganedge
well, I know absolutely nobody from there and have no proof at all, so that vid pretty much describes all I know... That's what I base my thinking off of. If I had other proof I would think other wise. It's just I have none, so I know nothing.

well what about the news, that said a plane hit the pentagon?
noman
09-29-2004, 07:57 PM
well lets just leave it at this being as how i cant get the damn link to work.....the gov are MAINLY lieing bastards that mislead mith false information and send thousands to there deaths for pointless causes or lies....and whether it was a plane or not, why believe them either way??? maby it was a halogram covering a missle.........so that the general public wouldnt know about anothier war goin on elsewere...and the war in iraqis just a coverup....how would we know...granted i know many have died but whats to say they werent somewere else...plz dont go off on me for this. im just sayin what i personally think
light_jk
09-29-2004, 08:32 PM
Noman has a point. Just because they're people in high government positions doesn't mean they wouldn't stoop pretty low. Look at the George Bush factor. If you tell a lie often enough and loud enough, people believe it's the truth even though they really know better. How many Americans were killed by terrorists last year compared to the number killed by lightning?
Wouldn't it make more sense to have a war on the sky than a "war on terriorism"?
veganedge
09-29-2004, 08:37 PM
well what about the news, that said a plane hit the pentagon?

yeah they said a plane hit the pentagon, but I saw no footage of any wreckage... so what does that lead me to believe??? And exactly as noman said, I have a general distrust of the government as should anybody. Now XsecX if you have seen footage otherwise, I would definately like to see it... I'm not calling your friend a liar, I just haven't seen any evidence pointing towards a plane myself.
noman
09-29-2004, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by veganedge
yeah they said a plane hit the pentagon, but I saw no footage of any wreckage... so what does that lead me to believe??? And exactly as noman said, I have a general distrust of the government as should anybody. Now XsecX if you have seen footage otherwise, I would definately like to see it... I'm not calling your friend a liar, I just haven't seen any evidence pointing towards a plane myself.

thats exactly what i was tryin to say without affendin no one.....if i did sorry plz dont ban me
xsecx
09-29-2004, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by noman
thats exactly what i was tryin to say without affendin no one.....if i did sorry plz dont ban me

why would you be banned?
xsecx
09-29-2004, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by veganedge
yeah they said a plane hit the pentagon, but I saw no footage of any wreckage... so what does that lead me to believe??? And exactly as noman said, I have a general distrust of the government as should anybody. Now XsecX if you have seen footage otherwise, I would definately like to see it... I'm not calling your friend a liar, I just haven't seen any evidence pointing towards a plane myself.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ppfinal.html
noman
09-29-2004, 08:45 PM
idk....i dont get a warm homy vibe when people reply to my posts and such lol....i feel outa place by sayin stuff + im paranoid.
veganedge
09-29-2004, 11:14 PM
I'm still not convinced. All of the wreckage was pretty tiny for a 757... and they said those are suitcases, but they couldn't get closer to it, because I couldn't tell they were suitcases. I don't know man. It doesn't really matter I guess.... but this doesn't look like a plane to me. Does anybody know how many people were on this flight????


http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/PENTPLANE/fuselagefragment_MVC-027S.jpg
xsecx
09-30-2004, 06:38 AM
Originally posted by veganedge
I'm still not convinced. All of the wreckage was pretty tiny for a 757... and they said those are suitcases, but they couldn't get closer to it, because I couldn't tell they were suitcases. I don't know man. It doesn't really matter I guess.... but this doesn't look like a plane to me. Does anybody know how many people were on this flight????


http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/PENTPLANE/fuselagefragment_MVC-027S.jpg

so you have a lot of experience in crash investigation?
xdaddydaycorex
09-30-2004, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by veganedge
I'm still not convinced. All of the wreckage was pretty tiny for a 757... and they said those are suitcases, but they couldn't get closer to it, because I couldn't tell they were suitcases. I don't know man. It doesn't really matter I guess.... but this doesn't look like a plane to me. Does anybody know how many people were on this flight????


http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/PENTPLANE/fuselagefragment_MVC-027S.jpg

lots, and they all died crashing into the pentagon. if the plane didn't crash into the pentagon...where did it crash, because there were a bunch of people on it ...and now their dead.

i think its just the music that was put to the video that makes it so believable, and the awsome editing.
veganedge
09-30-2004, 02:13 PM
so you have a lot of experience in crash investigation?

no, but I'm not going to accept somebody telling me this is what a humongous plane looks like after a crash easily.

lots, and they all died crashing into the pentagon. if the plane didn't crash into the pentagon...where did it crash, because there were a bunch of people on it ...and now their dead

that is true

I'm just skeptical about things until I see it or know for sure, there is nothing wrong with that... especially due to all the circumstances surrounding that.
xsecx
09-30-2004, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by veganedge
[B]no, but I'm not going to accept somebody telling me this is what a humongous plane looks like after a crash easily.


So people who are qualified and experts don't have a problem with this, but you a laymen does. why? Do you doubt every other crash that you don't see footage of a plane crashing of? How many other planes crashing into secure buildings have you examined?
veganedge
10-05-2004, 05:47 PM
you always take things pretty far on these discussions, not necessarily a bad thing.

So people who are qualified and experts don't have a problem with this, but you a laymen does. why? Do you doubt every other crash that you don't see footage of a plane crashing of? How many other planes crashing into secure buildings have you examined?

I've never met these experts. In fact I never saw any news reports with any experts. As I said before a person with no knowledge can do nothing but doubt. No I don't doubt every plane crash because there aren't as many sketchy circumstances surrounding it. I have not examined any other plane crashes into secure buildings. I'm just saying I have my doubts, you obviously don't. That's fine because you feel you have proof, I do not. Are we going to keep arguing???
xsecx
10-05-2004, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by veganedge
you always take things pretty far on these discussions, not necessarily a bad thing.



I've never met these experts. In fact I never saw any news reports with any experts. As I said before a person with no knowledge can do nothing but doubt. No I don't doubt every plane crash because there aren't as many sketchy circumstances surrounding it. I have not examined any other plane crashes into secure buildings. I'm just saying I have my doubts, you obviously don't. That's fine because you feel you have proof, I do not. Are we going to keep arguing???

so what have you done to deal with your doubts other than look at stuff on the internet? What are you doing to gain this proof that you need?

what sketchy circumstances? Do you doubt that planes hit the towers?

and yes. we are.
straightXed
10-05-2004, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by xsecx

what sketchy circumstances? Do you doubt that planes hit the towers?



especially as 2 had already flown into the twin towers that day.
xdaddydaycorex
10-05-2004, 07:13 PM
i love when dusty gets on a roll
veganedge
10-07-2004, 11:04 PM
Do you doubt that planes hit the towers

No, but I've seen footage.... I have yet to see footage of a plane hitting the pentagon......

so what have you done to deal with your doubts other than look at stuff on the internet

what am I supposed to do, conduct plane crashing experiments??
I've seen nothing good on the news and next to that all I have is a library and the internet.... If you can lead me in the right direction I'm waiting.
straightXed
10-08-2004, 02:37 AM
Originally posted by veganedge
No, but I've seen footage.... I have yet to see footage of a plane hitting the pentagon......



what am I supposed to do, conduct plane crashing experiments??
I've seen nothing good on the news and next to that all I have is a library and the internet.... If you can lead me in the right direction I'm waiting.

so are you saying without footage, which of course could be faked, you aren't going to believe anything. Not everything is going to be captured on film you know but i was just wondering if you think the moon landing was a set up?
xsecx
10-08-2004, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by veganedge
No, but I've seen footage.... I have yet to see footage of a plane hitting the pentagon......



wait I thought you said you didn't need to see footage of other plane crashes to believe these.



what am I supposed to do, conduct plane crashing experiments??
I've seen nothing good on the news and next to that all I have is a library and the internet.... If you can lead me in the right direction I'm waiting.

Have you tried calling any crash investigators? Have you tried calling the FAA to get information? I'm sure you can find books for plane crashes.