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XprennaX
08-27-2004, 05:48 AM
In a 1992 report by the NCIB, National Charities Investigation Bureau, PETA spent 42% of its organizational expenses on fundraising. Only 20% on actual research and investigation in to animal cruelty.
More current reports examining PETA's tax filings have shown as little as 1% of PETA's total revenue actually goes directly to helping animals; usually small donations to animal clinics or similar organizations. PETA's 2001 tax filings show some interesting donations:

1. Compassion Unlimited Plus Action - Bangalore - Donation - $11.11
2. PETA Research & Education Foundations - Donations $29.16
3. In Defense of Animals - Donation $71.11
4. Virginia Police Defense Fund, Norfolk Police Union - Donation - $150
5. Society for Abolition of Animal Exploitation - Donation - $150
6. Kalamazoo Animal Liberation League - Donation - $150
7. Vieques Humane Society - Donation - $25
8. SNAP - Donation - $50,000

PETA's donations totaled only $206,655.58, but they had a total revenue of almost $14 Million.

PETA spent the following on

1. PETA TV - Expense - $13,268.84
2. Electronic equipment, computers, cameras - Expense- $33,869.24
3. Automobiles - Expense - $148,362.02
4. SNAP Vehicle - Expense - $150,000.00
5. Buildings and improvements - Expense - $295,101.60 (After a $195,000 donation of property)
6. Land - Expense - 94,170.00

It makes one ask the questions, what is PETA really about? Why do they choose to spend more money on promoting themselves than actually helping animals?
In 1999, PETA euthanized 1,325 of the 2,103 animals it took. PETA claimed that euthanizing the cats was much kinder than leaving them in the streets. PETA made the statement that a quick painless death is much better than a slow painful one. However, when hunters or farmers talk of quick painless ways of killing animals, PETA calls them barbarians and claim no animal death is justified.

Along with this PETA treat grassroots groups like shit. I've been a part of the animal rights movement for well over six years now and time after time I've seen PETA roll into town to do one of their big publicity stunts. They expect the local grassroots groups to send their people along to help out and then once they've got the publicity (and the boost in donations) they leave again. We real animal activists go back to our day to day on the frontline of the movement with no support from PETA. They are only concerned with money and securing the wages of their directors.

I say to you now, if you want ot get involved in animal rights get in touch with your local group. If there isn't want, get some friends together and start your own thing. There is plenty of sites to get ideas from online.

Don't support PETA, support the animal rights movement.

xsecx
08-27-2004, 03:34 PM
what's the source of the peta killing pets thing?

straightXed
08-27-2004, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by xsecx
what's the source of the peta killing pets thing?

dude you know what happened last time you asked for sources about peta!

xsecx
08-27-2004, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by straightXed
dude you know what happened last time you asked for sources about peta!

yeah I know. total shit storm!

XprennaX
08-28-2004, 05:23 AM
Originally posted by xsecx
what's the source of the peta killing pets thing?

I'll track down a link. PETA don't actually deny this either but I'll get you a source for it.

xsecx
08-28-2004, 09:26 AM
Originally posted by XprennaX
I'll track down a link. PETA don't actually deny this either but I'll get you a source for it.

that's cool. it's just insane that someone that goes apeshit for the killing of animals would go ahead and do it themselves.

Sean The Red
09-04-2004, 03:22 AM
Originally posted by XprennaX
I'll track down a link. PETA don't actually deny this either but I'll get you a source for it.

any luck yet?

XprennaX
09-04-2004, 06:16 AM
Originally posted by Sean The Red
any luck yet?

About the euthanasia? No not yet. It comes from some local authority statistics in the US so I'm still trying to track it down.

veganedge
09-21-2004, 08:14 PM
Yes, we all know Peta doesn't DIRECTLY help animals.... they use their money to print out materials to get the word out to people. That's about it. But it's a help.

XprennaX
09-22-2004, 06:18 AM
Originally posted by veganedge
Yes, we all know Peta doesn't DIRECTLY help animals.... they use their money to print out materials to get the word out to people. That's about it. But it's a help.

There are plenty of other AR groups out there that "get the word out" and are actually effective. They also don't pay their directors massive amounts of money and don't put animals to sleep. If people supported these other groups more then we wouldn't need parasites like PETA hijacking the cause.

veganedge
09-22-2004, 01:18 PM
I agree.....

j1218
10-06-2004, 05:40 PM
whoa whoa whoa peta? parasite?? ahhh whats going on..joe where are ya buddy read this topic? we should research this!

xsecx
10-05-2005, 04:15 PM
holy shit is this now completely ironic.

drughate_vegan
10-08-2005, 08:20 PM
holy shit is this now completely ironic.
what?

xsecx
10-08-2005, 08:55 PM
what?

a couple of months ago people from PETA were arrested for dumping bodies of euthenized animals in dumpsters.

drughate_vegan
10-08-2005, 09:34 PM
a couple of months ago people from PETA were arrested for dumping bodies of euthenized animals in dumpsters.
well fuck. what was the outcome? a lawsuit?
peta had good intentions.. that money drove them from it, it seems.

stepinsideissue
10-08-2005, 09:35 PM
a couple of months ago people from PETA were arrested for dumping bodies of euthenized animals in dumpsters.


Do as we say not as we do.

xsecx
10-08-2005, 09:55 PM
well fuck. what was the outcome? a lawsuit?
peta had good intentions.. that money drove them from it, it seems.

http://www.fbresearch.org/Deathvan/timeline.htm

XvagueprophetX
10-16-2005, 03:52 PM
well fuck. what was the outcome? a lawsuit?
peta had good intentions.. that money drove them from it, it seems.

PETA scandal update (http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=93730&ran=57036)

drughate_vegan
10-19-2005, 10:32 PM
PETA scandal update (http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=93730&ran=57036)
goddamn it! ----

drughate_vegan
10-19-2005, 10:41 PM
for those of you who care.. write them a letter of concern:
info@peta.org

drughate_vegan
10-20-2005, 09:55 PM
here's peta's reply to me:

Thank you for contacting PETA about the North Carolina situation. That means you care, and we wish everyone did.



Please forgive this form response. We are getting hundreds of e-mail messages, calls, and letters every day about all sorts of issues, which means that it is impossible to reply to each one personally. We do want to underscore the fact that despite this form response, we take your concerns very seriously, and all comments we receive regarding this situation are being reviewed by our senior staff as well as staff involved in our Domestic Animals Department.



First, the report from North Carolina regarding the dumping of animal bodies in a Dumpster by a PETA staff member is deeply upsetting. It is against PETA’s policy to put the bodies of euthanized animals in Dumpsters, as you might imagine, and we are appalled that a member of our staff apparently did that. Despite the fact that we know this woman to be a caring soul and someone who has done much selfless work to help animals, there is no excuse for what happened. As an initial result, she has been suspended. We have launched our own investigation of the circumstances surrounding this case.



Because there has also been a great deal of misinformation in the news about this case and its circumstances, we want to provide you with some additional background information—something the media has not done.



We started working in North Carolina in 2000, after PETA was contacted by a police officer who was distressed by conditions in a county pound. North Carolina has the second-highest rate per capita of euthanasia in the country—35 animals killed annually for every 1,000 residents. Most do not die a humane death. When we step in to humanely euthanize animals—at no cost to the participating shelters—as we did in this instance, our involvement prevents animals from being shot to death with a .22 caliber firearm, being gassed to death in an old, rusty metal box, injected with a paralytic that causes slow suffocation without loss of consciousness, suffering for weeks on end from disease and illness, or worse. In some of those places, dogs had drowned in floods and frozen to death in winter.



We are a “shelter of last resort,” offering a humane death to animals who would otherwise suffer a slow and painful end. To learn more about the conditions that led to our involvement in these North Carolina counties, and some of the many improvements we’ve been able to make, please visit http://www.HelpingAnimals.com/f-nc.asp.



Sadly, the shelters we work with in North Carolina also have no adoption programs or hours set aside for adoption. In fact, most of them have no staff on site. PETA has begged for years, through formal proposals and numerous meetings, for officials to allow us to implement an adoption program as part of a larger picture of shelter improvements that would also include a spay/neuter program, a humane education program, 24/7 emergency services, and rabies clinics.



It is important to add that PETA does not run an adoption facility ourselves - we refer most adoptable animals to known shelters open to public traffic, although we have managed to place 360 animals in excellent, lifelong homes in just the past year. There is, in fact, a North Carolina dog called Dovey in our office as this is written.



It is also PETA policy that no one on our staff is ever to give anyone the impression that animals we accept are being taken for placement. From what we have been able to determine in this situation, the shelters from which our staff picked up the dogs were fully aware of this fact, although it may be politic for them to deny that now, given the outcry. It is our policy as well that the vast majority of animals we accept are only those who are in terrible conditions or unadoptable for some reason, such as aggression or sickness in old age.



We wish that there were other options available. We cannot bring the majority of animals back to Virginia for placement. The same issues regarding adoptability of injured, sick, or old animals exist everywhere, including here, and “all-admission” shelters (those which, unlike “turn-away”—so-called “no-kill”—shelters, never turn their backs on any animal) are, as in the rest of the country, already unable to cope with the overpopulation of unwanted animals and cannot find enough homes for all of them. Using Virginia shelters also means that there would be fewer homes for animals already in Virginia adoption facilities.



Some might argue that the solution to this crisis of overpopulation of so many unwanted animals is to open sanctuaries. But the sad reality is that the math doesn’t add up. There is not enough money available to us or anyone to build enough sanctuaries or organize enough animal-adoption programs to keep up with the number of unwanted animals, particularly those animals deemed “undesirable” because of their infirmities, age, or behavior. And putting all your resources into fostering and kenneling unwanted animals does nothing to stop the flow of more and more unwanteds. The source of the problem - trying to stop future unwanteds from being born—is where the money needs to go.



We believe that the spaying and neutering of animals, supported by appropriate local laws, is the single most effective tool in reducing the number of unwanted animals. For that reason, our humane education and outreach programs promote spaying and neutering. Our goal is to create a society where every dog and cat has a loving home. We have always advocated fixing the problems of overpopulation through practical methods, including encouraging people not to patronize pet shops or breeders. Those stories, however, rarely get coverage in the media.



As well as paying for sterilization of animals in North Carolina, we run a mobile spay/neuter clinic here in Virginia seven days a week. It focuses much of its work in disadvantaged neighborhoods, where we offer free and low-cost surgeries and other services such as flea/tick treatments and worming. In the last year, we have sterilized more than 7,600 dogs and cats, including feral animals - many free of charge and all others at well below our own costs. To date, we have sterilized nearly 25,000 in our clinic. Support for this program is much needed, as you can imagine.



PETA has always spoken openly about euthanasia, on our Web site and in our publications, and—while we understand that it is upsetting to learn about—it is necessary in this imperfect world, and we hope you understand that it is gut-wrenching for those of us at PETA and at shelters across the country who care deeply for animals to have to hold animals in our arms and take their lives because there is nowhere decent for them to go. Euthanasia will continue to be necessary until people prevent dogs and cats from bringing new litters into the world and as long as people hide their heads in the sand and leave the dirty work to others.



We hope this has shed some light on what happened, our policies, and our work. Our Web site http://www.HelpingAnimals.com may also be useful for additional information. Thank you for caring enough to ask about this.



Sincerely,





The PETA Staff

http://www.PETA.org

noah
10-23-2005, 11:22 AM
thats sick