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The Recluse
08-05-2004, 02:49 PM
Did you know that to attend a Bush/Cheney support rally you have to sign and Oath of Loyalty to the Republican party ensuring that you will not boo either the President or VP during their speeches. Orwellian comes to mind.

linsee
08-05-2004, 02:56 PM
they were here yesterday, a bunch of kids i know got a little bruised up by the feds.

xsecx
08-06-2004, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by The Recluse
Did you know that to attend a Bush/Cheney support rally you have to sign and Oath of Loyalty to the Republican party ensuring that you will not boo either the President or VP during their speeches. Orwellian comes to mind.

how is that orwellian? it's a support rally?

The Recluse
08-06-2004, 08:10 PM
well there using this Oath in many states with swing voters, who im pretty sure will be turned off by signing an Oath, thus they lose their votes.

political candidates should never be free from the criticism of the public, they are public servants and essentially they have to answer to us. if we are no longer allowed to question or criticize them then thats just fascism.

flame_still_burns
08-06-2004, 08:17 PM
i think that november 2nd will be a day of reconing for bush/cheney...

all the polls are taken with 'likely voters'...ie. people who have voted in the past. my fingers are crossed that many many 'unlikely voters' will make their voices heard.

xsecx
08-06-2004, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by The Recluse
well there using this Oath in many states with swing voters, who im pretty sure will be turned off by signing an Oath, thus they lose their votes.

political candidates should never be free from the criticism of the public, they are public servants and essentially they have to answer to us. if we are no longer allowed to question or criticize them then thats just fascism.

I'm sure this oath has existed at ralllies long before this election and by both parties. It's a rally. it isn't a town hall meeting. It isn't debate. It isn't a public event. How is not letting you boo at one specific kind of event equate to no longer being allowed to questino or criticize them?

The Recluse
08-06-2004, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by xsecx
I'm sure this oath has existed at ralllies long before this election and by both parties. It's a rally. it isn't a town hall meeting. It isn't debate. It isn't a public event. How is not letting you boo at one specific kind of event equate to no longer being allowed to questino or criticize them?

Are you sure this oath has always existed? And if so why has it not been mentioned earlier in history?

xsecx
08-07-2004, 01:17 AM
Originally posted by The Recluse
Are you sure this oath has always existed? And if so why has it not been mentioned earlier in history?

why is this so shocking to you? Why is it even relevant? Is it a town hall? is it a debate? Or is a party function?

xsecx
08-07-2004, 01:18 AM
ps http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:hozvVE4fDvMJ:www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/special_packages/election2004/7860623.htm+democrat+oath+of+loyalty&hl=en

The Recluse
08-07-2004, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by xsecx
why is this so shocking to you? Why is it even relevant? Is it a town hall? is it a debate? Or is a party function?

sorry, it just seems very odd and authoritarian to a degree.

xsecx
08-07-2004, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by The Recluse
sorry, it just seems very odd and authoritarian to a degree.

why though? it's a self done rally. it's supposed to be with people who support you? It's not an open debate so I don't understand why it's odd to you?

straightXed
08-08-2004, 02:41 AM
Originally posted by xsecx
why though? it's a self done rally. it's supposed to be with people who support you? It's not an open debate so I don't understand why it's odd to you?

so its like a birthday party, you don't invite the school bully.