nivOriginally Posted by Emily852
niv
49 pages...
49.. freaking pages....
On topic. There are things you shoulden't do. These are written and they are sins.
But why should god ban evryghting ? He does not. He gave you a chance to think..
You are in charge of your life. God has created you to live, but how to live is your choice.
As for me..
I hope you will live a sinless life and make the world better.
thats great but i wouldn't like to live by what the bible decribes as sin.
Others walk the bow, I walk the string
Anyway.. i can't say im actually a beliver .. But God does excist..
At least i know that..
I know it.. My prayers always got heard.. And im very thankful to him..
Perhaps it was just a coinsidence , but i really doubt that..
Even if im wrong.. Beeing nice to people in general is a good thing, even if you don't belive.
Unless they prayed for something that was completely unlikely and impossible without some god like intervention i would say that is not a great reason to believe that god exists. I mean its completely possible that the things that happened for you could have (and probably did) happen without the help of god. I have no idea why you would doubt it so much, incidently, why is god a he?
Being nice to people is great but the bible is not nice to all people just those that fall in line with the beliefs of christianity, everyone else is going to hell simply for not believing not to mention unable to live a life that decent compassionate people can accept yet christians cannot. That, to me at least, is really not nice at all.
Others walk the bow, I walk the string
Straitedge means no drinking, smoking, and drugs. That has nothing to do with religion. Just because jesus drank wine does not mean that a straitedge person can't believe in Jesus or God. I believe in God, and I am also straitedge. I have christian friends that are straitedge. Christianity and sxe are in no way related.
did you read the thread at all?
I will delete your account immediately if you don't learn how to spell it right.
After being in the Catholic School system for a number of years, and being edge for the majority of those years, I can now say that I'm not really of the Catholic faith, but I believe that there's something else beyond death. For now I'm trying to lead my life as best I can, and the best for me is as a Straight Edge person.
good argument?
Its not like you actually have a good argument that has countered the points raised in the thread at all though is it...which is probably why your post wasn't addressed as a contending argument of how to reconcile straightedge and christianity, don't you agree?
Others walk the bow, I walk the string
I dont really need a good argument, I dont actually care if I win or lose this debate. I already said what I wanted to say, and that was Religion and Straightedge are in no way related. Thats it. Go ahead and attack me.
You need a good argument if a) you are entering into an already existing argument with well discussed points and b) if you are going to call someone else out on the strength of their argument.
You are right, they aren't related and further more one does not fit with the other without major contradiction to the point of blasphemy. If you believe otherwise the onus is on you to put forward an argument as to why that stands up against the points raised within this thread. But i'm not interested in attacking you at all so i'll have to pass on that one.
Others walk the bow, I walk the string
OK I JUST SPENT MY ENTIRE MORNING READING THIS ENTIRE THREAD SO THAT I MAY MAKE A LEGIT POINT... so here it is!!! Can you be Christian and Straight Edge??? Yes, because Christianity is so full of inconsistencies and is based on fabrications by man. You are blindly following the word of people without truly knowing the facts of your god so why pay attention to any facts? You believe that drinking is wrong when you are sxe and according to what people have written about 'jesus' he drank wine... but you basically have to take everything written in the bible with a grain of salt. I say you can follow the basic principles and go to church and pretend to listen and feel like you are saving your soul but your religion is based on lies and fabrications so whether or not jesus existed or whether he drank some wine and possibly if he enjoyed banging hookers (just added that in for fun) is beside the point. BUT if you truly believe every word that is being preached to you and believe that jesus isn't metaphorical and really existed and really drank alcohol but you choose a sxe lifestyle, then you aren't really christian cuz your messiah approved of drinking and took part...
in short.... christianity is hypocritically forged so what's wrong with a little hypocracy in your own life choices? hahaha
My support has no conditions, I will always have your back.
heh, i won't go much into detail.. i will also throw off the facts like when, why, and by whom were compiled Scriptures as we know then today.. but I surely recommend everyone who says he believes in Jesus (as a God) to find those information..
On topic - I don't see any reason why christian can't be straight edge (or vegan as there were claims in different thread I believe)...
sxe - Jesus drank wine? yes, that may be truth.. and what? is there any fuckin christian on this planet that can claim that he's doing WWJD? no, there is NONE.. and never was.. just think.. you have this "man".. but he's no man, he is God.. he knows everything, yet his knowledge is limited.. he is allpowerful, yet he has to ask in prayer to HIMSELF "why have you forsaken me?".. and there everything just falls apart.. if i should do what Jesus did according to this Roman Empire conspiracy called The Bible and if the last day will come and God will ask me "But why didn't you follow Jesus?" I can say with my head held high: "Because I have had no chance to do so and I had no chance to believe the Bible with the brain you gave me.."...
vegan - can be of course a christian... a christian trying to caught the glimpse of the Eden, where human beings were vegan... or from the stance of LOVE... according to 1 Cor 13:13:
" But now remains
faith, hope, love,
these three;
but the greatest of these is love. "
btw. that's one of the messages that New Testament really carries for me.. the word of love and compassion...
Take the time. Don't be blind. You will find. An open mind. There's no need for you to tell me what I've done wrong. I can, can see, all this contradiction around me. I just, just want, I want to be free. Don't question my actions. I never said that I was flawless
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