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    Quote Originally Posted by stepinsideissue
    n/t ?????
    yeah, no text. your sentence said it all. same as "nuff said"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SgtD
    yeah, no text. your sentence said it all. same as "nuff said"

    Gotcha.
    This so called shit is what I live for. It's why I'm alive. I'll never smother the fire forever burning inside.

    I'm at the point where I'm sucked in. By the message I get this passion.

    The fury is mine. It keeps me alive. I can't breathe till I release what's inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SgtD
    we all knew about this!
    cutie. just because i dont conform.
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    Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.” – Margaret mead

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    Quote Originally Posted by XBILLYX
    cutie. just because i dont conform.
    well, conformation has nothing to do with you calling yourself dumb!

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    Quote Originally Posted by collin
    Ok, so already I've been hearing some controversy...So what do you guys think? Can you be sXe and Christian?
    i would think that the two would pretty much go hand in hand. jesus encouraged a healthy mind, body, and spirit. doesn't sXe encourage the same thing? i am proud to call my self christian(catholic) sXe...and no, i dont take wine at communion. lol...personally, i never have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xMoranXArmyx
    i would think that the two would pretty much go hand in hand. jesus encouraged a healthy mind, body, and spirit. doesn't sXe encourage the same thing? i am proud to call my self christian(catholic) sXe...and no, i dont take wine at communion. lol...personally, i never have.
    the whole point is really that jesus made wine, drank wine, and encouraged its use. at least i believe that's what the gist of the whole thread was about. how can you be straightedge when you follow a system of beliefs that encourage such things? jesus even said to drink wine in rememberance of his blood. hence where communion wine comes from. even though they both encourage healthy minds and bodies there are majour differences.

    so as i myself stated before, no. i dont believe it is a possibility to be christian and sXe.
    I will not carry a gun, Frank. When I got thrown into this war I had a clear understanding with the Pentagon: no guns. I'll carry your books, I'll carry a torch, I'll carry a tune, I'll carry on, carry over, carry forward, Cary Grant, cash and carry, carry me back to Old Virginia, I'll even "hari-kari" if you show me how, but I will not carry a gun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by atXdawnXweXburn
    the whole point is really that jesus made wine, drank wine, and encouraged its use. at least i believe that's what the gist of the whole thread was about. how can you be straightedge when you follow a system of beliefs that encourage such things? jesus even said to drink wine in rememberance of his blood. hence where communion wine comes from. even though they both encourage healthy minds and bodies there are majour differences.

    so as i myself stated before, no. i dont believe it is a possibility to be christian and sXe.
    well just because you are Catholic doesnt mean you have to take wine. i dont take wine at communion. sure, he encourages the usage of it in communal sense, however, i dont drink the wine, never have, never will. i get what you are trying to say, but i think that you are a little confused on what some church teaching is. They don't mandate that you must take wine, it is your personal choice. As for Christ, I believe in most of Christ's teachings, but i do not believe in the catholic teaching of transubstantiation (the bread and wine becoming the body and blood of christ). should i be banned to hell? should i be kicked out of the sXe realm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xMoranXArmyx
    should i be banned to hell? should i be kicked out of the sXe realm?

    come on now, did i ever say that? hell, just because you dont take the wine doesnt mean anything. as i stated, its the whole belief system that he ENCOURAGED it. you're following the teachings of somebody who was definately not sXe. even so, its nothing to get worked up about. i have plenty of friends who aren't sXe. you wont be "kicked out of the realm" or shunned because of your beliefs. personally, i respect the fact you're drug free. it takes some guts to be frug free now days, and i think it's admirable. even so, i wouldnt quite say you're sXe

    and yeah, i have no problems with catholics. i'm marrying into a big ass irish catholic family.
    I will not carry a gun, Frank. When I got thrown into this war I had a clear understanding with the Pentagon: no guns. I'll carry your books, I'll carry a torch, I'll carry a tune, I'll carry on, carry over, carry forward, Cary Grant, cash and carry, carry me back to Old Virginia, I'll even "hari-kari" if you show me how, but I will not carry a gun!

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    it just seems that sXe is only reserved for agnostics and aetheists and other forms of religion other than christianity....am i correct? this seems strange since i thought that sXe was against forms of discrimination

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    Quote Originally Posted by xMoranXArmyx
    it just seems that sXe is only reserved for agnostics and aetheists and other forms of religion other than christianity....am i correct? this seems strange since i thought that sXe was against forms of discrimination
    honestly, this would be more of a question for dusty. i dont have the knowledge to say so much, but i wouldnt quite call it "discrimination"

    it's not like all sXe people HATE christians. as i said, i have nothing against them. but i just believe that due to the beliefs behind christianity it is impossible to unite sXe with the religion.

    but hey, ask dusty. he'll know for sure.
    I will not carry a gun, Frank. When I got thrown into this war I had a clear understanding with the Pentagon: no guns. I'll carry your books, I'll carry a torch, I'll carry a tune, I'll carry on, carry over, carry forward, Cary Grant, cash and carry, carry me back to Old Virginia, I'll even "hari-kari" if you show me how, but I will not carry a gun!

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    since i'm new to this entire mindset of sXe...please clarify this for me because arent there christian sXe bands out there? (ie xLooking Forwardx)

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    Quote Originally Posted by xMoranXArmyx
    it just seems that sXe is only reserved for agnostics and aetheists and other forms of religion other than christianity....am i correct? this seems strange since i thought that sXe was against forms of discrimination
    if you bother reading the trhead and think about it, you'll understand how the two contradict each other.
    and sxe is pretty much discriminating, do you think it's an openminded movement while we diss people who do recreational drugs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by atXdawnXweXburn
    honestly, this would be more of a question for dusty. i dont have the knowledge to say so much, but i wouldnt quite call it "discrimination"

    it's not like all sXe people HATE christians. as i said, i have nothing against them. but i just believe that due to the beliefs behind christianity it is impossible to unite sXe with the religion.

    but hey, ask dusty. he'll know for sure.
    you wouldnt quite call the fact that there are people who consider themselves sXe, but who are christian, in reality really can never be sXe because they believe in Christ who said "take this cup and drink of my blood" ? that seems like discrimination to me...no offense man, i totally get what you are saying...but overall, it seems like discrimination. you can never be sXe because you are christian

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    Quote Originally Posted by SgtD
    if you bother reading the trhead and think about it, you'll understand how the two contradict each other.
    and sxe is pretty much discriminating, do you think it's an openminded movement while we diss people who do recreational drugs?

    well, as you know, i'm new to this. i'm still seeing if giving this new method of drug free mindset will turn into a potential sXe life. you guys gotta help me out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xMoranXArmyx
    you wouldnt quite call the fact that there are people who consider themselves sXe, but who are christian, in reality really can never be sXe because they believe in Christ who said "take this cup and drink of my blood" ? that seems like discrimination to me...no offense man, i totally get what you are saying...but overall, it seems like discrimination. you can never be sXe because you are christian

    hence why i said to ask dusty for sure.

    but either way it goes, congrats on being drug free *throws confetti*

    at least you wont end up homeless on the street blowing people for meth money like my mom! =P
    I will not carry a gun, Frank. When I got thrown into this war I had a clear understanding with the Pentagon: no guns. I'll carry your books, I'll carry a torch, I'll carry a tune, I'll carry on, carry over, carry forward, Cary Grant, cash and carry, carry me back to Old Virginia, I'll even "hari-kari" if you show me how, but I will not carry a gun!

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