Anarchism

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So have you been living in Latin America and Eastern Europe? Because if not, your support of capitalism there is "laughable and pointless" since you have no idea how things really are!

no, which is why I asked the people that live there what their opinion on your statements was. There's empirical evidence that suggests that living conditions are improving globally so that's why I tend to think that your statements are unfounded at best and biased at worse. You take the voices that agree with you as gospel and simply ignore the ones that don't even if they greatly outnumber those that you agree with.

This debate has become childish. Enjoy being a vanguard to capitalism. I'm done with this.

enjoy taking your ball and going home!

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I was just wondering if you had a source to back up the "human nature is bad" statement, ya know like an actual source, not you calling me a stupid kid and telling me to research a huge and broad topic of study as opposed to being able to actually back up your statements. If you find a source i would love to read it.

your statement was that human nature didn't exist. Or are you trying change that now? Sociology is the study of human nature, so yeah, I don't see what you're asking me to back up?

[mouseman004]

Enjoy being a vanguard to capitalism.

Do you even realise how stereotypical everything you have stated up to this point has been? Down with the establishment, fuck the corrupt politicians and law enforcement! Down with the ruling class!

I half expect your next response to be "Viva la revolucion!"

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i'm invisable.

[mouseman004]

i'm invisable.

Maybe you asked a question that was unanswerable!

[rodrigo]

hey rodrigo and guys from eastern europe, how are things going for you guys now as compared to say 15 years ago?

pretty good, we have a better health system, better scholar system, programs dedicated to young kids, grown ups and old, old women withouth teeth are getting new ones since a bunch of years ago, we have more chances of growing up and having a decent job. social justice is working way better than years ago, sure it still has problems that needs to be adressed, and things still are fucked up big time, but we're trying to fix those things in any way we can.

[rodrigo]

i'm invisable.

i feel the same, i cant get a visa and also nobody replies my posts

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pretty good, we have a better health system, better scholar system, programs dedicated to young kids, grown ups and old, old women withouth teeth are getting new ones since a bunch of years ago, we have more chances of growing up and having a decent job. social justice is working way better than years ago, sure it still has problems that needs to be adressed, and things still are fucked up big time, but we're trying to fix those things in any way we can.

Wow, your health care sounds better than ours in some respects. Who would have thought!!

[straightXed]

Maybe you asked a question that was unanswerable!

Ooops, sorry.

[Wicked Brown]

i feel the same, i cant get a visa and also nobody replies my posts

i will

[straightXed]

i feel the same, i cant get a visa and also nobody replies my posts

ha ha, actually that was quite funny

[Segadoway]

Do you even realise how stereotypical everything you have stated up to this point has been? Down with the establishment, fuck the corrupt politicians and law enforcement! Down with the ruling class!

I half expect your next response to be "Viva la revolucion!"

Viva la revolucion!

[Sociocidal]

you automatically lose an argument. when you go straight to hitler. This isn't a fair statement since capitalism doesn't exist in a bubble .

You are right, this was a bit harsh, but I was just trying to make an example of how progress doesn't equal moral justification, I could very well have made the point of Stalin and "communist" Russia.

Out of interest how would anarchy help ethopia? What would change in the poor agriculture and drought issues? Would places with much less to trade become an underclass within this anarchy ideal or would there be a structure with caveats to avoid this?

I never said anarchy would, my initial point was that Anarchism is a currently impossible and impractical idea, a point I stand behind. Its the perfect "belief" for middle class white children in first world nations to flock to because it requires no thought, no action, no justification and no education in history or politics, just watch near on any interview with an "anarchist", ask how violence and destruction of property is benefiting any real movement. Though I do believe that's already been done in this thread..

Id also like to state that we seem to have gotten of the point of this thread, "What do u think about anarchism?? to my mind, its a very interesting political philosophy" I for one am very guilt of going off on a "the evils of capitalism" tangent as are a few here..

I'm not going to post in this again (not because its childish as some have said ;p) im just bored of the topic for now..

[straightXed]

You are right, this was a bit harsh, but I was just trying to make an example of how progress doesn't equal moral justification, I could very well have made the point of Stalin and "communist" Russia.



I never said anarchy would, my initial point was that Anarchism is a currently impossible and impractical idea, a point I stand behind. Its the perfect "belief" for middle class white children in first world nations to flock to because it requires no thought, no action, no justification and no education in history or politics, just watch near on any interview with an "anarchist", ask how violence and destruction of property is benefiting any real movement. Though I do believe that's already been done in this thread..

Id also like to state that we seem to have gotten of the point of this thread, "What do u think about anarchism?? to my mind, its a very interesting political philosophy" I for one am very guilt of going off on a "the evils of capitalism" tangent as are a few here..

I'm not going to post in this again (not because its childish as some have said ;p) im just bored of the topic for now..

Thanks for your reply, as the question isn't relevent to you i would welcome anyone else to answer it.

[Veskou]

Biggest utopia ever! Communism sounds better. And NO I don't mean socialism - I mean world communism and please there's no need for people who don't understant to write. I don't need stuff like "Well why is it gone?" "Why do the people hate it so much?!". Actually there never was communism (only socialism - communism is alot different), but it's very complicated and it would take me a hell lot more of time to explain.

P.S.
I don't wanna offend anarchists by saying anarchy is utopian. It's actually utopian FOR NOW! Maybr a couple of generations after our may realise what anarchy is all about, but for now it's utopian because there is still a lot of crime and people look at anarchy simply as chaos, vandalism, destruction and nihilism...