All Things Core

[xGriffox]

influence doesn't make a genre though, sound does. What hardcore influence comes through in those bands? lyrics? vocals?

where did I say that breakdowns were the defining part of hardcore? I was using that as an example to try and understand what you think would be a strong hardcore influence in those bands.

well to me at least, they sound like hardcore influenced crust/metal bands. so i guess i see your point, they aren't necessarily hardcore on their own. And i can't explain why i think they sound hardcore, its just, they do, to me at least.

[D1988]

Also, where are the breakdowns in any minor threat?

Whaaaat?

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Whaaaat?

they didn't have any. breakdowns didn't start until the late 80s/early 90s.

[D1988]

they didn't have any. breakdowns didn't start until the late 80s/early 90s.

I was being wide mate hehe

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I was being wide mate hehe

damn you internet sarcasm!

[D1988]

damn you internet sarcasm!

Yeah I do apologise, I have been in the same position as that but I am like you, I can't tell some ones personal expression from typed words most of the time, so it is cool :)

[PROPER JERK]

I listened to hardcore when I was pretty young but never got really into it until I started listening to east bay bands like redemption 87 around the time I was about 14. When I went to buy I think it was a rancid cd I talked to the guy working in the store and he wrote me a list of all different stuff to check out and I basically got into youth of today etc. from that.

At the moment I listen to stuff like:

Sinking Ships
Verse
Have Heart
Shipwreck
Guns Up
Outbreak
Filth
Bane

[stepinsideissue]

Lately I've been listening to Miles Away alot. I think they are an amazing band and think you guys should check them out.

[PROPER JERK]

yeh miles away are very good, getting very popular here now though.

[Michael]

Cold World anyone?

[Slober]

His Hero Is Gone is definitely hardcore. I've never heard any one even arguing about this. Crust hardcore has also definitely been influenced by metal greatly, but it's more punk. Grindcore is the one that goes on the metal side of the genre of dark and fast stuff.

I myself listen to pretty much anything, except those new screamo bands that are being labeled as hardcore. You know the ones with clean vocals ruining every song, like the stuff that X-over-O listed. I also stay away from the arrogant moshcore stuff.

I like the intelligent, political and sometimes emotional stuff about life.

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His Hero Is Gone is definitely hardcore. I've never heard any one even arguing about this.

they call themselves crust punk, which is definitely not hardcore. I've never seen anyone call them hardcore myself.

[Slober]

they call themselves crust punk, which is definitely not hardcore. I've never seen anyone call them hardcore myself.

I've always thought crust is a subgenre of hardcore.

Crust punk is one of the many extreme evolutions of anarcho-punk and styles of hardcore punk. Crust punk was created by combining anarcho-punk with extreme metal and is characterized by guttural or shrill vocals (often in the form of dual vocals) and an unpolished gritty, bass-heavy sound. Crust is very closely related to and influenced by D-beat and anarcho-punk. Grindcore is often influenced by Crust Punk.

I think we are both right... it's not that important, but I would still like to call crust atleast much more PUNK than METAL, because of the lyrics and attitude.

[asiankaos]

I listen to a lot of youth crew. That is what i got into first when I got into hardcore. I also listen to a lot of 90's hardcore. Frail,Groundwork,Unbroken,Fingerprint etc..
I like some of the new bands but I am kinda sick of metalcore. It still is alright but not very original.You can't make a whole song a breakdown come on.