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**xsecx** · 02-22-2006, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by mouseman004

They can sell non edge merchandise and make just as much money. my point is, they would probably not be selling shirts that say "Throwdown: Straight Edge" if they were not an edge band

then if that's the case, then why change the website and why not even include in your band bio?

**xbustedx** · 02-23-2006, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by xsecx

what are you basing this on?

conversations I have had with Daryl Palumbo (lead singer)

**xsecx** · 02-24-2006, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by xbustedx

conversations I have had with Daryl Palumbo (lead singer)

even so, they never put out a straight edge record, and were never a straight edge band. they may have intended to be at the beginning but never were.

**xbustedx** · 02-24-2006, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by xsecx

even so, they never put out a straight edge record, and were never a straight edge band. they may have intended to be at the beginning but never were.

They were playing sxe music. Long before they ever put out an album. Your right they never put out a sxe album. But they were a sxe band.

**xsecx** · 02-24-2006, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by xbustedx

They were playing sxe music. Long before they ever put out an album. Your right they never put out a sxe album. But they were a sxe band.

sure thing dude, but in the scheme of things and in relative terms, they weren't and shouldn't be included in discussions of straight edge bands if the extent of their time as an edge band was early on and never recorded.

**xbustedx** · 02-24-2006, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by xsecx

sure thing dude, but in the scheme of things and in relative terms, they weren't and shouldn't be included in discussions of straight edge bands if the extent of their time as an edge band was early on and never recorded.

if you say so. but I don't think that we should exclude discussing sxe bands just because they were never recorded. But its your forum and yoru rules. So, understood.

**xsecx** · 02-24-2006, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by xbustedx

if you say so. but I don't think that we should exclude discussing sxe bands just because they were never recorded. But its your forum and yoru rules. So, understood.

if a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound? How much impact is a band going to have in terms of edge if people don't hear the songs, aren't played and were never recorded?

**xbustedx** · 02-24-2006, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by xsecx

if a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound? How much impact is a band going to have in terms of edge if people don't hear the songs, aren't played and were never recorded?

thats not true I am sure lots of people hear bands long before they record anything. And I am sure that they have impacts on their own sxe community.

**xsecx** · 02-24-2006, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by xbustedx

thats not true I am sure lots of people hear bands long before they record anything. And I am sure that they have impacts on their own sxe community.

hearing them and them having an impact aren't the same thing. with this case in point, when people talk about and think about glassjaw it's not to do with straight edge at all, because they had no impact on the scene or the movement in general.

**Ahab** · 03-04-2006, 11:18 PM

Not to interrupt, but xNeverxAgainx, Suffocate Faster, xTyrantx.
Sorry if they've already been listed, I didn't want to go through every page of this thread.

**xbustedx** · 03-04-2006, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by xsecx

hearing them and them having an impact aren't the same thing. with this case in point, when people talk about and think about glassjaw it's not to do with straight edge at all, because they had no impact on the scene or the movement in general.

I bet people that heard them when they were sxe still discuss them on the topic of sxe.

**xsecx** · 03-05-2006, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by xbustedx

I bet people that heard them when they were sxe still discuss them on the topic of sxe.

so a handful of people in a specific point in time that didn't last very long. that's not impact dude.

**xbustedx** · 03-05-2006, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by xsecx

so a handful of people in a specific point in time that didn't last very long. that's not impact dude.

it made an impact on them. and so what? if it didn't impact the Entire sxe community? Is it any less worth discussing?

**xsecx** · 03-05-2006, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by xbustedx

it made an impact on them. and so what? if it didn't impact the Entire sxe community? Is it any less worth discussing?

it didn't have an impact on anyone. The only reason you know about it based on conversations with people in the band, nothing else. That's not impact. It wasn't worth it to them to continue being a straight edge band except for an extremely short amount of time, so why is it worth discussing? Should we also include every band that played a show, or even met but never played?

**xbustedx** · 03-05-2006, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by xsecx

it didn't have an impact on anyone. The only reason you know about it based on conversations with people in the band, nothing else. That's not impact. It wasn't worth it to them to continue being a straight edge band except for an extremely short amount of time, so why is it worth discussing? Should we also include every band that played a show, or even met but never played?

but they DID play your acting as if they never played a song.