Can You Be Christian And Straight Edge?

**collin** · 02-16-2006, 10:38 AM

Ok, so already I've been hearing some controversy...So what do you guys think? Can you be sXe and Christian?

**SgtD** · 02-16-2006, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by collin

Ok, so already I've been hearing some controversy...So what do you guys think? Can you be sXe and Christian?

you can't. but i've already showed you a link on that.

**collin** · 02-16-2006, 11:29 AM

yeah but all i got from that link was that there's a lot of dispute about it. why should sXe people exclude God? If that's their belief, then why should they change it? sXe should be open to more people, rather than just excluding some for their beliefs

**SgtD** · 02-16-2006, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by collin

yeah but all i got from that link was that there's a lot of dispute about it. why should sXe people exclude God? If that's their belief, then why should they change it? sXe should be open to more people, rather than just excluding some for their beliefs

sxe is what it is, whether you would like it to be more open for other people or not. you contradict yourself, it's clear as day. i mean, in that case, we should expand it to not include hardcore, so more people could be edge, who hate hardcore, and listen to techno.it's the same with christianity

**collin** · 02-16-2006, 12:10 PM

i still don't see how i'm contradicting myself by being both. could you please just explain what you mean?

**SgtD** · 02-16-2006, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by collin

i still don't see how i'm contradicting myself by being both. could you please just explain what you mean?

so you didn't read it too closely did you?

1. you say you are sxe. therefore you think drinking is wrong.
2. you are christian, and think that god is flawless, however jesus drank wine.
3. jesus drank wine-> he can't be flawless like you say. that's the contradiction

**collin** · 02-16-2006, 12:26 PM

1. Jesus drank wine because it was the only drink available, as the water was scarce and polluted.
2. Jesus didn't drink to get drunk.
3. Everyone drank wine-there was no other option.

**rodrigo** · 02-16-2006, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by collin

1. Jesus drank wine because it was the only drink available, as the water was scarce and polluted.
2. Jesus didn't drink to get drunk.
3. Everyone drank wine-there was no other option.

well if he was the son of god capable to transform water into wine, he easily could have cleaned or purified the water

**collin** · 02-16-2006, 12:39 PM

but wine was necessary for the marriage, according to Jewish law. the wedding wouldn't be considered legal without wine to bring the two parties together. the hebrews were very ritualistic and specific when it came to marriage, and other social aspects. Ephesians 5:18- Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit.

**SgtD** · 02-16-2006, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by collin

1. Jesus drank wine because it was the only drink available, as the water was scarce and polluted.
2. Jesus didn't drink to get drunk.
3. Everyone drank wine-there was no other option.

if i don't drink beer to get drunk, is that okay?

**rodrigo** · 02-16-2006, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by collin

but wine was necessary for the marriage, according to Jewish law. the wedding wouldn't be considered legal without wine to bring the two parties together. the hebrews were very ritualistic and specific when it came to marriage, and other social aspects. Ephesians 5:18- Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit.

what? jesus got married?!?!?!

**SgtD** · 02-16-2006, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by collin

but wine was necessary for the marriage, according to Jewish law. the wedding wouldn't be considered legal without wine to bring the two parties together. the hebrews were very ritualistic and specific when it came to marriage, and other social aspects. Ephesians 5:18- Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit.

so, if you don't get drunk on wine, it's okay to drink it?

**collin** · 02-16-2006, 12:57 PM

no it's not ok. however, if you live in a place where every source of drink is hazardous except wine, then it's ok, because wine is the only drink that you can have without getting sick. as to whether Jesus was married, i have no idea. there are no Scriptural references to Jesus having a wife, but if he had one, it really wouldn't conflict with any aspects of Christianity.

**SgtD** · 02-16-2006, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by collin

no it's not ok. however, if you live in a place where every source of drink is hazardous except wine, then it's ok, because wine is the only drink that you can have without getting sick. as to whether Jesus was married, i have no idea. there are no Scriptural references to Jesus having a wife, but if he had one, it really wouldn't conflict with any aspects of Christianity.

there was though