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Well what you personally think isn't really going to cut it unfortunately, i mean theres a lot of medical studies and laws in place to suggest you are wrong. I mean i can have a personal opinion on...

So you are saying you are here to be an asshole? Why? If someone came round your house to cause shit and be an asshole would you let them stay or would you boot them out? Things don't stay...

you are taking the word dependance out of context, the idea of a fetus being able to exist outside of the womb isn't one that stands up, it can't rely upon its own heart as its still forming. Of...

So are you just here to be an asshole? If you owned a site and someone purposely came along to be an asshole and insult you would you really want them around?

Tell that to the ALF then! These people are ready to see people die and as we are chosing to forget innocence it seems that there approach to life is inconsistant. For a consistancy to be found you...

It (fetus) doesn't qualify as life. If veganism is about not killing innocent beings by who's standards is this innocence measured? Theres no steadfast rule of innocence throughout life that we can...

If i eat meat is it not down to hardline people to deal out justice for that action?






If you say so.

Ok you like tahirs explanantion but his explanation and the manifesto seem quite different. And why on earth would you be open to a movement that utilises violence to enforce its beliefs and convert...

well if you want to keep turning this round then i guess its my go, why do you feel it isn't foolish.






Its not foolish to be against those things but i manage to do all these without the...

ok, lets take this slowly for you. I feel hardline is an idiotic group of beliefs, i think thats pretty easy to derive that from my original statement.

"A fool for what exactly?" I believe you...

Well its kinda hard, you don't seem to be able to decide yourself. But if you live in accordance with hardline then i think you are a fool, but nows your chance to prove it.

You shouldn't exist if you support hardline as that is extremely idiotic, hope you understand what you are standing for.

Yeah, in order to avoid and be aware of the inherent craziness.

By interesting you mean crazy right?

Theres an old site that i haven't seen in ages, i swear no one updates that site ever.

By scene you mean dumb.

Well talk about jumping to conclusions, isn't a tennent of straightedge although some people choose to adhere to that along side straightedge, just like veganism isn't straightedge. Many many people...

life is suffering :)

so what about lactose intollerant people, they don't support the dairy industry but they aren't vegan, and people who cut out dairy and meat for health reasons. therefore vegans are just making...

fruit? and nuts.