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  1. Thread: music and edge

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    Sticky: yeah but if you're not into hardcore, then how...

    yeah but if you're not into hardcore, then how does it really describe you?
  2. Thread: music and edge

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    Sticky: no one ever said that hardcore is the only music...

    no one ever said that hardcore is the only music that edge kids should listen to.
  3. Thread: music and edge

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    Sticky: I don't think you really understand what a music...

    I don't think you really understand what a music based subculture is. Hardcore has as much to do with what makes someone straight edge as being drug free does. The music is the medium for the...
  4. Thread: music and edge

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    Sticky: if they don't have any involvement with hardcore,...

    if they don't have any involvement with hardcore, then they wouldn't be straight edge, that's kind of the point, straight edge is a music based subculture, it's not just about being drug free.
  5. Thread: music and edge

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    Sticky: yeah, but the entire point is, that straight edge...

    yeah, but the entire point is, that straight edge is the subculture, and you're only straight edge, if you're a part of it. So if the subculture ceased to exist, then you couldn't be straight edge,...
  6. Thread: music and edge

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    Sticky: dude, if there are active scenes in most...

    dude, if there are active scenes in most countries in the world now, I seriously doubt it. Straight edge is more than the beliefs. If you're actively a part of something, then what's the point...
  7. Thread: music and edge

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    Sticky: if you're not an active participant, then how are...

    if you're not an active participant, then how are you part of a subculture? I could be bald, really love checker things and oi music, would that make me a skinhead?

    I also don't think that there...
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    Sticky: wow, she's a little clueless and it makes me...

    wow, she's a little clueless and it makes me wonder if she even understands where the term even came from.
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    Sticky: I am not a spiritual person, does that mean I'm...

    I am not a spiritual person, does that mean I'm not straight edge?
  10. Thread: music and edge

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    Sticky: considering your introduction post stated you...

    considering your introduction post stated you didn't even know anything about hardcore or straight edge bands, how are you in any position to pass judgment on what straight edge is or isn't?
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    Sticky: what defines straight edge and makes it unique...

    what defines straight edge and makes it unique from every other drug free movement throughout history?
  12. Thread: music and edge

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    Sticky: What point across though? It's not clear what...

    What point across though? It's not clear what you're trying to say.



    I can't tell you what trends are in your scene as it's literally half a world away. Do you think there aren't any?
  13. Thread: music and edge

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    Sticky: where is there a hardcore scene devoid of edge...

    where is there a hardcore scene devoid of edge kids and never has edge bands play?This statement also contradicts your earlier post?



    this is true of any scene. everything has trends.
  14. Thread: music and edge

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    Sticky: Why does it need to grow outside of hardcore? If...

    Why does it need to grow outside of hardcore? If it did spread to country or hiphop or other forms of rock that'd be awesome, but it would also be something new and not straight edge.
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    Sticky: straight edge and hardcore came out of an...

    straight edge and hardcore came out of an existing punk scene, but a good number of the first hardcore bands were straight edge and straight edge was extremely instrumental to the foundation and...
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    Sticky: how is it a misleading phrase when straight edge...

    how is it a misleading phrase when straight edge was fundamental to the creation of hardcore and you can't talk about straight edge without talking about hardcore?
  17. Thread: music and edge

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    Sticky: yeah but this isn't something you'll run into in...

    yeah but this isn't something you'll run into in public for the most part. the people you'd interact with at shows would be edge. these are people who's only connection to anything is the internet,...
  18. Thread: music and edge

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    Sticky: no, like most things this exists purely on the...

    no, like most things this exists purely on the internet and by people who have no connection to what straight edge actually is. occasionally they will come here and try and talk about how it's...
  19. Thread: music and edge

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    Sticky: which is to get the point across more bluntly. If...

    which is to get the point across more bluntly. If you're into the music and there's no scene around you then yeah you've got a better idea of things than someone who's never listened to an edge band,...
  20. Thread: music and edge

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    Sticky: no, I didn't say scene on purpose. What you're...

    no, I didn't say scene on purpose. What you're describing is still influence based on music. You can't talk about straight edge without the music, because it's what makes it unique. This is also why...
  21. Thread: music and edge

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    Sticky: yeah but then you're still back in the same trap,...

    yeah but then you're still back in the same trap, how can you be influenced by straight edge without hardcore?
  22. Thread: music and edge

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    Sticky: yeah but the point is that you can't be straight...

    yeah but the point is that you can't be straight edge without knowing about it. you can be drug free, but straight edge is a specific subculture that you are an active part of.
  23. Thread: music and edge

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    Sticky: this doesn't make sense to me.

    this doesn't make sense to me.
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    Sticky: music and edge

    It's pretty obvious how I feel about it. but I've been thinking today. If you think that straight edge has "evolved" out of hardcore and become something else, what is it then? What is this new...
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