Hey what do you guys think about the raceist/skinheads in the straight edge movement?
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Hey what do you guys think about the raceist/skinheads in the straight edge movement?
I'm against racism whether it's within the straight edge subculture or otherwise.
everybody in their sane mind is against racism. racists involved in sxe is just a paradox in itself, looking back on the history of it all.
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Originally Posted by SgtD
couldnt say it any better than that
im glad to here that :D
I remember when I was millitant we would beat up those raceist fucks!!!! But now we just laugh at them.
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Originally Posted by Wicked Brown
yeah there not worth anything more than laughing at them, i wouldnt waste my energy :D
hahahaha...lolQuote:
Originally Posted by x.Xmiss_SmogX.x
i don't think that laughing is the best answer.. sXe is another culture that neonazis will try to steal.. they've stolen skinhead style and they have ruined it, they've stolen the Black Block, they've stolen hardcore and now they're trying to steal sXe... FUCK NS-SXE! better than laughing is to break some skulls..
it's not if you're skinhead that you're raceist.
no, it's certainly not.. that was my point, thought..
i'm not filled with hatred, i'm not gonna break their skulls..
so you rather sit and wait till they'll break yours?
I don't accept racists as members of the SxE subculture. They don't belong with us.
Racist ppl that are in edge or jus regular racist ppl are losers I can't understand how u can hate someone for there skin tone it makes no damn sense
I for one will not break skulls, its quite beneath me. And i shant be having my skull broken either or ever condone racism, for this i don't need to be a thug.Quote:
Originally Posted by lo0m
i walk away ?
walk away? i'm not sure how is it in Belgium, but here you just can't walk away.. still I'm glad for the oportunity to RUN as fast as I can... it comes handy :-)
I thought you wanted to break their skulls?Quote:
Originally Posted by lo0m
we don't bust heads open in belgium, it could happen but never heard of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by lo0m
ok if it's the only way, i wouldn't take a beating and try to defend myself. but even in that situation it wouldn't be my goal to break their skulls, only defend myself. i'm not going to be like them.
i'm not into violence or any macho tough guy bullshit, but the things that are happening in Russia mainly and are starting to appear in my country are too much... that statement about breaking skulls was written in anger.. anger of how EVERYONE who in the past 10 years said that there's neonazi movement growing inside our borders was labeled "communist" or "left extremist"... now, when they started their own political party and started to gain massive support from white people who are living in suburbs with gipsies, mainstream TV took this and gave them TV time which they were longing for so much... our government started a "Fight against extremism"... not against neonazi movement, but extremism in general.. extremism in sense that everyone here could easily fit in.. everyone who has different thoughts about this system. everyone who is not just a consumer.
did anything change with neonazis? hell no, these fucks are marching in the streets, they have built "Protective Brigade", they tried a pogrom on gipsies in the suburbs..
fuck, no wonder i'm angry.. i'm seriously thinking about leaving this country..
so, i would not attack a person with any other means than words i think, but times has changed and in defense.. fuck, i would do anything to protect my family from this... if i'm attacked alone, i run...
I think you don't have to leave your country... I think there are many possibilities for anyone to fight against it. Without breaking skulls.Quote:
Originally Posted by lo0m
For example I'm a librarian. Sometimes I have to give "how to use library" lessons for children. After the lessons we always have a long chat with the guys. And I'm proud because I belive that I could give something for them and they became more smarter and they will be persons who have healthy thoughts. I don't have to breaking those skulls....
im not sitting in apathy.. my disguise is of course represented by my music, my everyday actions. i would leave just because if this neonazi thing will become huge and dangerous i want my family to be save...Quote:
Originally Posted by XTrueColorsX
anyway - thats a really great thing youre doing fot the kids.. at least i as kid would be glad
Revleft.com, Antifa ! there should be a lot of ppl on that forum
i just can't understand that ppl support this. the cruels of WWII... it's sick !
yes, it is sick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lifestyle_X
You know what else is sick The cruels of those who's power the red star and hammer&sickle symbolize are sick as well.
Fuck
that
site
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yes, it is.. fighting against authoritarianism with authoritarianism?.. hell, i "just" want freedom..
btw. hammer&sickle and redstar are not just symbols of communism, redstar is general social left field symbol and hammer & sickle is workers symbol.. but they should definitely use something else after decades we've been under red dictatorship.. it's like slap in the face for those who then suffered...
Personally I have no problem with skinheads being sXe but I do not agree with racists being sXe. It would be pretty contradictory to have people going against what is meant to be a positive movement, unfortunately with every movement there are dickheads that just use it as a grounds to be militant and violent just for the sake of it. I mean thats exactly how skinheads got tainted, the neo-nazi white supremacists just ended up using it as a badge and a stomping ground for violence.
AgreedQuote:
Originally Posted by lo0m
"my disguise is of course represented by my music"Quote:
Originally Posted by lo0m
Your music? What type of music?
we have a project called Absolution! and we play what I call "hardcore-pop".. It has hardcore influences and definitely hardcore morals and views on society as we all love hc/punk for many years, but musically it's... i don't know.. melodic hardcore but we have also slower and calmer songs... you can listen here (myspace.com/absolutioncz) to get a better idea, but that record sounds like shit and was recorder without bass :-))
wtf?!Quote:
Originally Posted by lo0m
change your band's name, and next time do some research before you decide to name your band...this is embarrassing. just sayin'!
(i can't listen to the songs, because i'm at work right now)
so i HAVE to? :-) i know exactly what it means and why i chose this name.. I found out about NY Absolution some years later, so we've added the "!" to not be mistaken.. and that band played like different style and as there is Death Before Dishonor "namesharing" and MANY others names collisions in music industry i stopped caring about it...
that's pretty lameQuote:
Originally Posted by lo0m
what is lame about that? if i didn't already know about the other band i wouldn't even know what the hell you're talking about in the first place.. and now you reply with nothing.. no constructive information at all, just that you find my reply "lame".. well that's great but definitely not something to build upon.. i didn't steal anything nor i wanted to build our "fame" out of many years defunct band credit as i didn't even know it existed and i would think about changing the name as we still have time to change it. but with this attitude? ok, i'll think about it.. or maybe i will change the name to BadXBrains just to have the enlightening oportunity to read another of your heartful comments ...
heh. It's bad enough that i have to make you realize what is lame about all of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by lo0m
I don't feel like i need to explain myself, it's kind of self explanatory really. You said it's ok, because death before dishonor did this before. and what's even more lame, that you don't care about this issue, because you put an exclamation mark after the word absolution.
And for the record: A lot of people would never give you the benefit of the doubt (or a listen) with you using this name, because you'd come off like a bunch of kids who don't have their shit right.
hmm, i will put this clear so we won't waste our times again.. you could have stated your opinion in two ways, one of them would be:
"hey man, do you realize that there was another band with that name? and they've played hardcore, too. i would suggest you to change it, blah blah blah", which would be fine as i'm always opened to critics
the other way is: "what the fuck? change that name!"
you apparently choose the rude way. who the hell do you think you are to tell ANYONE to change his band's name? if i called my band Metallica, it's not your fucking business! i am not forcing you in any way to listen to the music and you surely have the right to express your feelings or views on this matter, but you could also learn how to behave..
as i stated, i didn't know about the band, nor any of my friends, nor anyone from local scene at that time. oh mighty, we are so ashamed!
I propably WILL change that name as I see it really IS a problem. What about you having some assertivity training in return?
Well said!Quote:
Originally Posted by lo0m
I don't think my reply was rude. You can take it like that, if you want to, that's your problem, i don't give a shit what you think. I tell anybody anything i want to, who are you to tell me what not to say? Cry about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by lo0m
At least i made you understand the problem adressed.
well, whether you think or not, it was rude. if you don't see it, than take it as lesson for life. :-)
i won't reply to the rest of your peaceful message as i'm already sick of your tough guy "i know everything the best" bullshit...
peace
yeah, next time don't call people out on not being contructive, they might think you're a hypocrit....Quote:
Originally Posted by lo0m