If you notice 2b, it would mean without fault. God is perfect, unless you want to try and explain to me how it isn't. It would also mean that when you do something against gods will, ie bad, that you would be commiting a sin. So unless you can come up with a giant list of what is and isn't a sin. The end of the day you're still left with saying that Jesus was wrong or capable of being wrong which puts your whole religion into the shitter.Quote:
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Or it has to do with the fact that it's poorly written, not consistant, not true and flawed. I don't think you quite realize that even if are going to try and say that it's due to translation that it's wrong, then you're saying that the whole book could be wrong. That's also saying that the translations wouldn't be guided by god, since it's his word, which introduced a whole new set of problem. The attempt to think that they're not talking about actual fish is to ignore the history and culture of the time. This just isn't accurate and there's no basis to believe it. The fish symbol was used for worship in secret. It serves no purpose to be written in the bible, nor does it make sense as symbolism in lines like luke 24Quote:
Ok now as for veganism. First I'd like to reiterate that there are contradictions throughout the Bible on all different issues. This may be due to constant editing and translating. For instance, my thought on the line "I will hold true the law of man in Heaven." or whatever the exact quote is is that may have been added in there by some King or other political figurehead at some point in history because if the law of man goes against the law of God which it seems to do sometimes, then what does one do?
That being said, there are other factors that I believe do not conflict with veganism. Aside from what I said about Genesis in a previous post there is also a verse in Revelations where the Angel is condemning those who eat meat.
As for fish, it is believed that the fish in the Bible stories is symbolic. The Greek word for fish (Ichthys) was used as an acronym which in Greek stood for "Jesus Christ, Son of God, Saviour." The term "meat" in greek translates to nutrients in General. This is noted in Genesis as well where God says "Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed: to you it shall be for meat."
He said to them, "Have you anything here to eat?" 42 They gave Him a piece of a broiled fish; 43 and He took it and ate it before them. 44 Now He said to them, "These are My words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things which are written about Me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled." 45 Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, 46 and He said to them, "Thus it is written, that the Christ would suffer and rise again from the dead the third day, 47 and that repentance for forgiveness of sins would be proclaimed in His name to all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem. 48 "You are witnesses of these things. 49 "And behold, I am sending forth the promise of My Father upon you; but you are to stay in the city until you are clothed with power from on high."
