Can You Be Christian And Straight Edge?

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Originally Posted by Scooter

if ur straight edge ur not mad at everyone else for not being straight edge and u dont yell at people for drinking and smoking and doin drugs and havign casual sex u just dont do that urself. hate edge is the opposite where ur straight edge and hate people who arent and drink and stuff that is like hating jesus because he drank which means that u are hate edge. oh yeah and i put u instead of you because i feel like it and its shorter.

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Who hates jesus because he drank?

You guys are taking this Jesus drank whine to literal. As a Christian you try to be like him as best you can. But if you choose not to drink he isn’t going to not let you into heaven. No where in the bible does it say you have to drink alcohol, nor is it required in church. So yes you can be edge and Christian. If we start going you’re a Christian you cant be edge, you dress different you cant be edge. If you only say kids that fit the scene can be edge you push people away from us. We are a movement to stop kids from destroying their body’s and their lives. Think of us as an army. If you divide the army up and make the army weak brittle and useless, nothing will be achieved. I mean this movement is trying to stop kids from using drugs and alcohol and destroying they lives, right? If we start deciding that edge kids have to fit a special model, We might as well join the punk who never did achieve anything. We want the movement to be successful. We want to open people’s eyes to how much better it is to be edge and not to waste their lives

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Originally Posted by XBILLYX

You guys are taking this Jesus drank whine to literal. As a Christian you try to be like him as best you can. But if you choose not to drink he isn’t going to not let you into heaven. No where in the bible does it say you have to drink alcohol, nor is it required in church. So yes you can be edge and Christian. If we start going you’re a Christian you cant be edge, you dress different you cant be edge. If you only say kids that fit the scene can be edge you push people away from us. We are a movement to stop kids from destroying their body’s and their lives. Think of us as an army. If you divide the army up and make the army weak brittle and useless, nothing will be achieved. I mean this movement is trying to stop kids from using drugs and alcohol and destroying they lives, right? If we start deciding that edge kids have to fit a special model, We might as well join the punk who never did achieve anything. We want the movement to be successful. We want to open people’s eyes to how much better it is to be edge and not to waste their lives

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So are you meant to live as jesus did or not?

no one can prefectly. but drinking alchol has nothing to do with being like him. they mean in his action in how he treated people. the way he helped people. so if you dont drink that doesnt mean your not fellowing his way.

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Originally Posted by XBILLYX

You guys are taking this Jesus drank whine to literal. As a Christian you try to be like him as best you can. But if you choose not to drink he isn’t going to not let you into heaven. No where in the bible does it say you have to drink alcohol, nor is it required in church. So yes you can be edge and Christian. If we start going you’re a Christian you cant be edge, you dress different you cant be edge. If you only say kids that fit the scene can be edge you push people away from us. We are a movement to stop kids from destroying their body’s and their lives. Think of us as an army. If you divide the army up and make the army weak brittle and useless, nothing will be achieved. I mean this movement is trying to stop kids from using drugs and alcohol and destroying they lives, right? If we start deciding that edge kids have to fit a special model, We might as well join the punk who never did achieve anything. We want the movement to be successful. We want to open people’s eyes to how much better it is to be edge and not to waste their lives

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oh cool you're smarter and know better than jesus.

I really wish people would read and address the actual issue instead of the subject of the thread.

no i have just read the bible and know what i have learned what is the issue if not can you be a christian and edge then?

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Originally Posted by XBILLYX

no i have just read the bible and know what i have learned what is the issue if not can you be a christian and edge then?

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go back and read the thread. it's been discussed several times.

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Originally Posted by collin

Ok, so already I've been hearing some controversy...So what do you guys think? Can you be sXe and Christian?

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this is the tread. i think i answered the question "YES"

pretty much your closed minded if you have to only say whine is what makes christians not be edge

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Originally Posted by XBILLYX

pretty much your closed minded if you have to only say whine is what makes christians not be edge

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no. beleiving that god was wrong makes you can't be christian.

yea that does but god wasnt wrong. you are for thinking being a christian makes you not edge.

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Originally Posted by XBILLYX

yea that does but god wasnt wrong. you are for thinking being a christian makes you not edge.

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by you saying that drinking alcohol is wrong you are actually saying that you are right and god was wrong. if you're straight edge you're saying you believe drinking alcohol is wrong. it's really simple people.

no he drank whine it doesnt say it was alchol it could have been jouice we dont know. because he drank doesnt mean i have to. plus buddy it never said he drank the stuff. it only says he made it.

i said he drank it sorry i didnt mean that

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Originally Posted by XBILLYX

no he drank whine it doesnt say it was alchol it could have been jouice we dont know. because he drank doesnt mean i have to. plus buddy it never said he drank the stuff. it only says he made it.

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he was jewish and celebrated passover. the wine at the last supper was passover wine and was as custom dictated alcoholic. Jesus created wine for his first miracle. You're still back to the same point of thinking that jesus was wrong about something. Unless you think drinking alcohol is fine and that you should supply people with alcohol. I shouldn't know more about what the bible says about this shit than people who claim to be christian.

your so damn wrong. you make it sound like a colt. he doesnt make you have to drink! just because he did doesnt make us. just because we dont doesnt mean we think hes wrong

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Originally Posted by XBILLYX

your so damn wrong. you make it sound like a colt. he doesnt make you have to drink! just because he did doesnt make us. just because we dont doesnt mean we think hes wrong

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by saying you're straight edge you are actually saying that you believe drinking alcohol is wrong. as well as jesus. I'm so damn wrong, but you can't tell me why or what I'm wrong about. First you say jesus did drink, then he didn't, then he just gave people alcohol. It's not a matter of him making you, which he does with the last supper, but whatever. It has to do with your own beliefs not making sense. because. well. they don't. Unless you want to start explaining how you can be straight edge and think drinking alcohol is a great idea that everyone should do.

look we arent jews we dont have to drink for anything. he die on the cross so we dont have to do that stuff. so that makes my belifes wrong? because he drank he gave jews alchol. iam wrong he died for my sins and so i dont have to do those rituals. dont you get it he did all that stuff so i could be edge he did it so i didnt have to drink.

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Originally Posted by XBILLYX

look we arent jews we dont have to drink for anything. he die on the cross so we dont have to do that stuff. so that makes my belifes wrong? because he drank he gave jews alchol. iam wrong he died for my sins and so i dont have to do those rituals. dont you get it he did all that stuff so i could be edge he did it so i didnt have to drink.

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you honestly don't even understand the basic principles, history or customs of christianity. he did all that "stuff" because it was his divine path. not so someone 2000 years later could say that he was wrong and that some kid knows better than his "god"

so your saying right now edge is flat out wrong so are you. i obviously know more about god then you do because being edge is ok with him. its not about the drinking that makes him who he is.

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Originally Posted by XBILLYX

so your saying right now edge is flat out wrong so are you. i obviously know more about god then you do because being edge is ok with him. its not about the drinking that makes him who he is.

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well no. I think that christianity is wrong and edge is right. You obviously know less because you can't even explain why you think what you do. How can you and god disagree on anything?

see your one of those people that make people think were some fucked up gang or something. your a damn hard head that just cant leave things. least just say we are all in the same movement right? but because you want to think so deep into something so hard that it makes the whole movement a waste of time. that is what your doing bro. your think this out to deep. yea jesus drank i dont iam edge iam a christian. it doesnt matter what you are where your fromas long as you push the movement. see we are fighting the same thing. if we fight each other about religon and god we are killing each other. you see what iam saying? you think gods wrong thats fine iam not going to push to join us. i am going to support the cause we both stand for and where my X on my hand proud. i wont chnage my mind because some one like you think i cant be edge. edge is what iam and if in the end this really isnt what God wanted of me i guess we will find out then.

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Originally Posted by XBILLYX

see your one of those people that make people think were some fucked up gang or something. your a damn hard head that just cant leave things. least just say we are all in the same movement right? but because you want to think so deep into something so hard that it makes the whole movement a waste of time. that is what your doing bro. your think this out to deep. yea jesus drank i dont iam edge iam a christian. it doesnt matter what you are where your fromas long as you push the movement. see we are fighting the same thing. if we fight each other about religon and god we are killing each other. you see what iam saying? you think gods wrong thats fine iam not going to push to join us. i am going to support the cause we both stand for and where my X on my hand proud. i wont chnage my mind because some one like you think i cant be edge. edge is what iam and if in the end this really isnt what God wanted of me i guess we will find out then.

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no you're one of those people who has beliefs, but don't understand them, haven't thought about the, and honestly can't talk about them intelligently. The fact that you don't find a problem with disagreeing with god demonstrates that. You beliefs that contradict each other. That's not even taking into account that being christian doesn't fit into hardcore or any subculture for that point and is being used as a recruitment ground.
I'm still wondering how you can disagree with god.

i dont see how you say its disagreeing with him. he doesnt tell us to drink if he did and it was a order then we would be dis agreeing.

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Originally Posted by XBILLYX

i dont see how you say its disagreeing with him. he doesnt tell us to drink if he did and it was a order then we would be dis agreeing.

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he does in the eucharist.


so you don't see how believing that drinking alcohol is wrong is disagreeing with god? Jesus drank and provided alcohol. You believe that drinking alcohol is wrong. you're saying that jesus did something that was wrong. How isn't it disagreeing with god?

because things have change. back then they didnt do it to destory themself like kids today. i dont believe he made it to have kids use it the way they do. you us that in cathlic practice we dont do it with whine as chritians. we hardly do comunin. were you once a christian?

I guess im one of the few people who think that jesus was wrong, and that he wasent god.

*shrug* oh well, back to the frying pan

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Originally Posted by XshiXnyX

I guess im one of the few people who think that jesus was wrong, and that he wasent god.

*shrug* oh well, back to the frying pan

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right on, i'm starting to like you more with every post. LoL

XBILLYX needs to start and read the thread from the first page.

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Originally Posted by XBILLYX

no he drank whine it doesnt say it was alchol it could have been jouice we dont know. because he drank doesnt mean i have to. plus buddy it never said he drank the stuff. it only says he made it.

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You obviously read the abridged version of the bible from a cereal packet.

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Originally Posted by XBILLYX

your so damn wrong. you make it sound like a colt. he doesnt make you have to drink! just because he did doesnt make us. just because we dont doesnt mean we think hes wrong

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No but you say he was wrong for doing so by believing drinking is wrong, thats the point.

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Originally Posted by XBILLYX

because things have change. back then they didnt do it to destory themself like kids today. i dont believe he made it to have kids use it the way they do. you us that in cathlic practice we dont do it with whine as chritians. we hardly do comunin. were you once a christian?

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So where do you pick up the amendments in gods word? Because if your only reason for negating certain factors of what was written is the change of the times that that would surely leave all of the "good news" out of date and irrelevent thus making christianity an archaic belief system with no relevance in today's world - you could be on to something there.

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Originally Posted by XBILLYX

because things have change. back then they didnt do it to destory themself like kids today. i dont believe he made it to have kids use it the way they do. you us that in cathlic practice we dont do it with whine as chritians. we hardly do comunin. were you once a christian?

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yeah, that's why the bible doesn't say anything about drunkness being a sin. oh wait it does.
I was raised a christian and then I realized that it didn't fit what I actually believe or how I wanted to live my life.

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Originally Posted by atXdawnXweXburn

right on, i'm starting to like you more with every post. LoL

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I have some advice.

Two things never to talk about to your girlffreind.
Your religion, and why you hate george bush. I just learned the hard way ='(

Danm, thats goona cost ALOT of money ><

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Originally Posted by XshiXnyX

I have some advice.

Two things never to talk about to your girlffreind.
Your religion, and why you hate george bush. I just learned the hard way ='(

Danm, thats goona cost ALOT of money ><

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maybe you shoulda talked about those things before she was your girlfriend?

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Originally Posted by kelly

maybe you shoulda talked about those things before she was your girlfriend?

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but she's like totally hot and that's why you date people.

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Originally Posted by xsecx

but she's like totally hot and that's why you date people.

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See, he knows whats goin on.

And I know well get over it....Unless shes PMSin, cauz then im in trouble x.x

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Originally Posted by XshiXnyX

See, he knows whats goin on.

And I know well get over it....Unless shes PMSin, cauz then im in trouble x.x

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I'm glad you're young.

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Originally Posted by xsecx

I'm glad you're young.

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And a bit delusional...

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Originally Posted by kelly

And a bit delusional...

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come on, you're just pms'ing.