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is there a lot of call for tile curators?

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Not specifically. It's more likely that I'd be doing valuations for auction houses and such in terms of tiles, but my graduate programme was Decorative Arts and Design, which is basically everything but paintings (wall paper, tiles, dresses, silverwear, china, architecture, stained glass, etc). The tiles is just something I fell into for some reason. Although, there are two museums dedicated strictly to tiles, on at Jackfield in the Ironbridge Gorge in Shropshire, England, and another at Stoke-on-Trent in Staffordshire England. But those are highly prized council jobs and its not likely that they're hiring.

Hi Tracey. Welcome to the forums.

I'm glad someone is getting away from this place. I don't know why you aren't happy to leave here for America.

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Hi Tracey. Welcome to the forums.

I'm glad someone is getting away from this place. I don't know why you aren't happy to leave here for America.

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What part of the Big Rainy are you fae?

I was perfectly happy to live in America, until I moved to Northern Ireland and discovered how much more there is to life here. Life is slower here, which is good. It isn't 24-7 all the time. It isn't dog-eat-dog and fuck yies if you can't get by. I don't know, its just...I feel like I'm home here. Every time I go back to America, I have culture clash...like it's overstimulating. I land back in Glasgow, and immediately, I relax, reconnect, breathe easier. There's something about it, something about the way people live here, that suits me.

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What part of the Big Rainy are you fae?

I was perfectly happy to live in America, until I moved to Northern Ireland and discovered how much more there is to life here. Life is slower here, which is good. It isn't 24-7 all the time. It isn't dog-eat-dog and fuck yies if you can't get by. I don't know, its just...I feel like I'm home here. Every time I go back to America, I have culture clash...like it's overstimulating. I land back in Glasgow, and immediately, I relax, reconnect, breathe easier. There's something about it, something about the way people live here, that suits me.

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I live over in Fife. The west is better than the east, so you have the better deal that way!

I am glad you enjoy it here. Atleast you have had the experience of living in these different places and discovering where it is you like to be the most :)

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What part of the Big Rainy are you fae?

I was perfectly happy to live in America, until I moved to Northern Ireland and discovered how much more there is to life here. Life is slower here, which is good. It isn't 24-7 all the time. It isn't dog-eat-dog and fuck yies if you can't get by. I don't know, its just...I feel like I'm home here. Every time I go back to America, I have culture clash...like it's overstimulating. I land back in Glasgow, and immediately, I relax, reconnect, breathe easier. There's something about it, something about the way people live here, that suits me.

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it isn't but it's also a lot harder to get ahead in the UK than it is in the US. The wages are lower, the taxes are higher and everything generally costs more. People in the US do work more than people in UK, but there's also more upward mobility in the US than there is in the UK. I think being there as a student and being there as someone trying to build a life would be very different experiences.

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it isn't but it's also a lot harder to get ahead in the UK than it is in the US. The wages are lower, the taxes are higher and everything generally costs more. People in the US do work more than people in UK, but there's also more upward mobility in the US than there is in the UK. I think being there as a student and being there as someone trying to build a life would be very different experiences.

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Taxes are higher, aye, but those taxes pay for my healthcare, which would be $800+ a month for me back in the states because I have type 1 diabetes. I don't pay for my prescriptions (diabetic or otherwise). Education costs less, even with the conversion (home and EU student fees for uni in Scotland are something like 1,300 GBP per year, which gets paid by SAAS, which students pay back only after they earn > 15,000 GBP a year, unlike american FAFSA/Stafford funds that start being paid back after 6 months if you have the money or not). The taxes support the free museums, leisure centres, and other tangible things within the council.

I'm doing both my postgraduate education and trying to get ahead here. Ive been working and applying for permanent work here (i.e. career). I'm very much building a life here for myself. I in no way intend for this move back to America to be permanent (the thought scares the crap out of me).

I don't know about the wage being lower...all of my jobs have paid me equivalent to what I was paid in the states (min. wage in PA is $7.25. Every job I've had here has paid me 7.50 GBP or more).

As for things costing more...I don't know about that. It seems that things cost about the same. Things are more expensive in Ireland, but it's a wee island removed from the continent and lots of places are rural. In Scotland...I've found things to be cheaper or the same price to living in the US (i.e. a loaf of bread costs 1.09 GBP, and it costs $1.09 in the us).

My rent is cheap, but I flatshare in a non-posh neighbourhood and bike commute to uni (in the posh bit), so my rent is 180GBP a month, plus 20GBP for utilities (light, internet).

I dunno, I guess the urge to get ahead just isn't there for me. I just want to live comfortably, do what I love, and have my health. And in terms of that, the UK is a better job market for cultural jobs. Meh, guess its all how you look at it.

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Taxes are higher, aye, but those taxes pay for my healthcare, which would be $800+ a month for me back in the states because I have type 1 diabetes. I don't pay for my prescriptions (diabetic or otherwise). Education costs less, even with the conversion (home and EU student fees for uni in Scotland are something like 1,300 GBP per year, which gets paid by SAAS, which students pay back only after they earn > 15,000 GBP a year, unlike american FAFSA/Stafford funds that start being paid back after 6 months if you have the money or not). The taxes support the free museums, leisure centres, and other tangible things within the council.

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The NHS is also completely fucked and bankrupt but that's another discussion all together. You're literally taxed for everything you do in the UK. Own a tv? Pay a license. Own a car, pay a bunch of taxes. Buy anything other than food, pay a shitload of vat.
Then you have you have to payinto national insurance as well. Assuming a simple 22% income tax rate and then 100 pounds a week for NIl, you're looking at literally half of your income going to taxes, and that's just the ones that come out of your paycheck to begin with. The tax difference is significant and shouldn't be discounted.

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I'm doing both my postgraduate education and trying to get ahead here. Ive been working and applying for permanent work here (i.e. career). I'm very much building a life here for myself. I in no way intend for this move back to America to be permanent (the thought scares the crap out of me).

I don't know about the wage being lower...all of my jobs have paid me equivalent to what I was paid in the states (min. wage in PA is $7.25. Every job I've had here has paid me 7.50 GBP or more).


As for things costing more...I don't know about that. It seems that things cost about the same. Things are more expensive in Ireland, but it's a wee island removed from the continent and lots of places are rural. In Scotland...I've found things to be cheaper or the same price to living in the US (i.e. a loaf of bread costs 1.09 GBP, and it costs $1.09 in the us).

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Yeah but that's actually the root of it. 1.09 pounds is closer to $2.20. The median salary in england is 24k, where here it's $48k and scotland is 21k. So if everything that costs a dollar here costs a pound there and you're making fewer than half as many pounds as you are dollars, it makes a giant difference.

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My rent is cheap, but I flatshare in a non-posh neighbourhood and bike commute to uni (in the posh bit), so my rent is 180GBP a month, plus 20GBP for utilities (light, internet).

I dunno, I guess the urge to get ahead just isn't there for me. I just want to live comfortably, do what I love, and have my health. And in terms of that, the UK is a better job market for cultural jobs. Meh, guess its all how you look at it.

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it's not even a matter of just getting ahead, it's harder to even stay afloat there. Look at the number of people on welfare in the UK compared to the US. It's hard as hell to live there and everyone I know that does is struggling to feel safe and secure. I'm just saying that going to school somewhere and living there are totally different things and that it may be a lot harder than you think it will be. Next time you're in the pub talk to people about how much money they're able to put into savings. How easy it was for them to buy a decent house or a decent car.

hi
i am an italian boy who would like know more about edge

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hi
i am an italian boy who would like know more about edge

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ask questions about what you want to know, or search the forums to see if its something thats been discussed before.

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List some bands you are into at the moment.
-I'm on a ska kick at the moment. Been enjoying some Toots and the Maytals lately, and rediscovering a Pittsburgh band called The Code, and Whatever It Takes. Not specifically edge, but still good choons.

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toots and themaytals are the best damn ska band ever man!

Well Hi Guys, im christopher...

Im 17 and live in the bahamas

right now im into for the fallen dreams and august burns red

and last record i brought was the new acacia strain

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Well Hi Guys, im christopher...

Im 17 and live in the bahamas

right now im into for the fallen dreams and august burns red

and last record i brought was the new acacia strain

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Hi Christopher, welcome to the board! Finally, someone same age as me.

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Well Hi Guys, im christopher...

Im 17 and live in the bahamas

right now im into for the fallen dreams and august burns red

and last record i brought was the new acacia strain

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Is there any kind of scene in the bahamas?

haha there is a rap, and reggae scene. but not much of anything else, im the only person i kno thats edge around here.

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haha there is a rap, and reggae scene. but not much of anything else, im the only person i kno thats edge around here.

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Welcome to the "only kid in block"-scene. Bahamas and Finland rocks.

Hi, im Angello!
Im 18. im from IL.

Im not really into straight edge music. Im into Psyclon Nine, Marilyn Manson, ICP, MSI and other random artists.

I do follow the philosophy behind sxe, even though the music i listen to might contradict the way i think.
I would have to say im one of the few around here who is straightedge and means it.
By that i mean, i dont drink at all, smoke at all, or do drugs. And recently i stopped drinking caffinee! Yay me. Anyway.

Yeah that is me. Also i am a Juggalo, but i like i said i'm sxe. So one out a million juggalos who is.

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Hi, im Angello!
Im 18. im from IL.

Im not really into straight edge music. Im into Psyclon Nine, Marilyn Manson, ICP, MSI and other random artists.

I do follow the philosophy behind sxe, even though the music i listen to might contradict the way i think.
I would have to say im one of the few around here who is straightedge and means it.
By that i mean, i dont drink at all, smoke at all, or do drugs. And recently i stopped drinking caffinee! Yay me. Anyway.

Yeah that is me. Also i am a Juggalo, but i like i said i'm sxe. So one out a million juggalos who is.

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WEEEE, MSI FAN! Faggot faggot faggot!

what is MSI?

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what is MSI?

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I am pretty sure its "mindless self indulgence" and they are oh so shocking!! And by shocking i mean, dull, played out, unimaginative and boring.

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I am pretty sure its "mindless self indulgence" and they are oh so shocking!! And by shocking i mean, dull, played out, unimaginative and boring.

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found their myspace and was really boring, if i wanted to hear punkrock with synths id put some atari teenage riot

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found their myspace and was really boring, if i wanted to hear punkrock with synths id put some atari teenage riot

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Didn't they shock you?!

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Didn't they shock you?!

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they gave me a headache, does that count?

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Hi, im Angello!
Im 18. im from IL.

Im not really into straight edge music. Im into Psyclon Nine, Marilyn Manson, ICP, MSI and other random artists.

I do follow the philosophy behind sxe, even though the music i listen to might contradict the way i think.
I would have to say im one of the few around here who is straightedge and means it.
By that i mean, i dont drink at all, smoke at all, or do drugs. And recently i stopped drinking caffinee! Yay me. Anyway.

Yeah that is me. Also i am a Juggalo, but i like i said i'm sxe. So one out a million juggalos who is.

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why are you so drawn to music that is completely diametrically opposed to your beliefs? I would imagine it would make going to shows uncomfortable.

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WEEEE, MSI FAN! Faggot faggot faggot!

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what's up with the homophobia?

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what's up with the homophobia?

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Dig me now and fuck me later
And sing it to the tune of faggot, faggot, faggot
- Mindless Self Indulgence - Faggot

It's awesome live. Not maybe on CDs, but Lil' Jimmy is crazy.

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Dig me now and fuck me later
And sing it to the tune of faggot, faggot, faggot
- Mindless Self Indulgence - Faggot

It's awesome live. Not maybe on CDs, but Lil' Jimmy is crazy.

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yeah, right.

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It's awesome live.

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It would be awesomer dead!

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they gave me a headache, does that count?

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nah, theres nothing shocking about that!

Boys, why so cranky?

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Boys, why so cranky?

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Girl, not cranky i'm just mocking the joke of a band!

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Girl, not cranky i'm just mocking the joke of a band!

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Crankyyy...

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Crankyyy...

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Nope, just having fun making fun of a bad band. It passes the time. Mind you judging by the lyrics i'd say MSI are pretty cranky about something!

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Nope, just having fun making fun of a bad band. It passes the time. Mind you judging by the lyrics i'd say MSI are pretty cranky about something!

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They seem to be cranky about everything.

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They seem to be cranky about everything.

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So cranky and so shocking, oh my!

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why are you so drawn to music that is completely diametrically opposed to your beliefs? I would imagine it would make going to shows uncomfortable.

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Well its not like all they talk about is drugs and smoking. They talk about other things as well. That and i like the way they sound. Manson is my idol, well....except for the drugs and stuff...it's mainly his ideas and philosophies that i admire. As for ICP i think their songs are funny, the beats are good, and i like the cult magic of the dark carnival. I know it's strange, but im often told im a strange kid. lol.

Ive been to a Marilyn Manson show and a MCR show and that's about it. It wasn't uncomfortable at all. I was with my gf at the manson show, whom doesn't do drugs or anything either, and it still was kick ass. I mean yeah there was a ton of drinking and smoking, but i wasn't going to let that spoil my fun. Just as long as i dont do it and she doesn't idrc.

What's bad about shows/festivals is when some idiots decide to throw their beer over everyone. That was not a good experience for me. :(

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What's bad about shows/festivals is when some idiots decide to throw their beer over everyone. That was not a good experience for me. :(

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If its beer you are lucky, more often than not its piss.

or go in the pit with a cigaret............oww.....

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What's bad about shows/festivals is when some idiots decide to throw their beer over everyone. That was not a good experience for me. :(

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Really? That sucks, yeah didnt happen to me. Though at the MCR concert some asshole was getting pissed because i was pushing and "stepping" on him. Fucking idiot.What the hell does he expect to happen? it's a god damn concert! That crowd was pretty tame, especially compared to the manson crowd; they didnt give a damn.

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Really? That sucks, yeah didnt happen to me. Though at the MCR concert some asshole was getting pissed because i was pushing and "stepping" on him. Fucking idiot.What the hell does he expect to happen? it's a god damn concert! That crowd was pretty tame, especially compared to the manson crowd; they didnt give a damn.

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Yeah, it's pretty annoying, just lucky it wasn't in my mouth. Hahah! (not that would be considered breaking edge anyway :P)
Well for MCR the crowd was probably mostly teenagers who just stand there or it was his first concert, I remember being wary of those around me at my first show. At a show I expect to get hit a few times, but I tend to be in the pit nowadays.