Can You Be Christian And Straight Edge?

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Originally Posted by mouseman004

You might want to watch it with the way you explain things. For you to come out and tell somebody that what they beleive just simply isn't true and call them idiots for beleiving it doesnt really make you sound smart, it makes you sound like an arrogant prick. I am not a christian, and anybody who has ever studied history is able to point out the contradictions in christianity, but if it is what people want to beleive then let them do it, you are in no position to tell them they are wrong. And I really don't know where you got all this information about astrology and its connection to the terms of christianity, but i am pretty sure most of it is not true, or at least speculation.

I am not even Christian and your post pissed me off, only because you are an 18 year old trying to tell millions of people they are idiots for their beleifs. Yeah christianity is a bunch of Hypocritical BS but you are in no position to dictate to people where their religion came from nor are you in any position to tell them they are wrong. If you don't beleive it, thats fine, nobody is telling you too, but if others want to beleive it then that is their right and they don't need to be judged by people like you.

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I agree, that post was insulting and disrespectful

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Originally Posted by SgtD

so you didn't read it too closely did you?

1. you say you are sxe. therefore you think drinking is wrong.
2. you are christian, and think that god is flawless, however jesus drank wine.
3. jesus drank wine-> he can't be flawless like you say. that's the contradiction

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But he wasn't addicited.
I am new to Straight Edge.
So I don't know all the "rules"

But I am a strong believer in God.

The bible does say that God doesn't want you harming his palace. (your body)
and this uncludes drinking. But over drinking is what is really harming your body. not occasional glasses of wine.

I understand that sxe does not believe in drinking. But well,...I don't even know what to say. Personally yes I think drinking is totally wrong. But God is the ruler of all. And I follow after him with all my heart.

So why can't you be a Christian and Straight Edge?

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Maybe I shouldn't have written back to this.
But this is my opinion.

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Originally Posted by different// :)

But he wasn't addicited.
I am new to Straight Edge.
So I don't know all the "rules"

But I am a strong believer in God.

The bible does say that God doesn't want you harming his palace. (your body)
and this uncludes drinking. But over drinking is what is really harming your body. not occasional glasses of wine.

I understand that sxe does not believe in drinking. But well,...I don't even know what to say. Personally yes I think drinking is totally wrong. But God is the ruler of all. And I follow after him with all my heart.

So why can't you be a Christian and Straight Edge?

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Maybe I shouldn't have written back to this.
But this is my opinion.

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If you go back to page 1 and read through this thread, your questions will be answered multiple times.

You guys are right, I did post too agressively and was under alot of stress at the time.

But you all have to realise the hardship Christianity has caused me. I've done my research, I've read my books and studied in religion classes and I have made my choice. My family seems to think I'm a failure if I'm not Christian and I was harassed at my Christian school which is why I have so much hate for it.

But I do still stand by the stuff I said. And If you all want some sources then I would be more then happy to re-post what I said without attacks and insults and of course with my various sources.

I encourage you in the meantime to look up the life of Jesus and compare it to the life of Horus. The similarities should keep you busy while I write up something worth posting, unlike my last reply.

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Originally Posted by sXe Commish

You guys are right, I did post too agressively and was under alot of stress at the time.

But you all have to realise the hardship Christianity has caused me. I've done my research, I've read my books and studied in religion classes and I have made my choice. My family seems to think I'm a failure if I'm not Christian and I was harassed at my Christian school which is why I have so much hate for it.

But I do still stand by the stuff I said. And If you all want some sources then I would be more then happy to re-post what I said without attacks and insults and of course with my various sources.

I encourage you in the meantime to look up the life of Jesus and compare it to the life of Horus. The similarities should keep you busy while I write up something worth posting, unlike my last reply.

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attacks and insults are fine, but they should always be backed up by something.

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Originally Posted by xsecx

attacks and insults are fine, but they should always be backed up by something.

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Either way I need to learn to control my anger. I've just had so many Christians ruin so many of my days that I've developped somewhat of a hate for them.

And like previously said, I am only 18 and I can't be going around blabbing without some backup.

I'll come up with a nice little report you can all spend an afternoon reading which will hopefully clear my insults up into facts.

Of course you can. I see no conflicting values. I know I'm both. :p

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Originally Posted by ~*PunkPixyDust*~

Of course you can. I see no conflicting values. I know I'm both. :p

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Maybe you should read the 45 previous pages of this thread?

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Originally Posted by D1988

Maybe you should read the 45 previous pages of this thread?

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Oh like I have that kind of attention span....or that much time. I'd lecture you but I'm losing focus aready...besides I'll always believe what I beleive. He asked and I gave my reply. I didn't expect anyone to agree or not with me. I don't really care. I just awnserd the queition.

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Originally Posted by ~*PunkPixyDust*~

Oh like I have that kind of attention span....or that much time. I'd lecture you but I'm losing focus aready...besides I'll always believe what I beleive. He asked and I gave my reply. I didn't expect anyone to agree or not with me. I don't really care. I just awnserd the queition.

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Please, lecture me.

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Originally Posted by ~*PunkPixyDust*~

Oh like I have that kind of attention span....or that much time. I'd lecture you but I'm losing focus aready...besides I'll always believe what I beleive. He asked and I gave my reply. I didn't expect anyone to agree or not with me. I don't really care. I just awnserd the queition.

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whats the point on joining a message board and posting in a thread about discussion if you are not gonna discuss? in fact you just answered a question with no back up, so you answer really sucks... i know you probably are going to say something like "whatever" or just excuse yourself from reading [wich goes back to the first like i wrote], so probably this post wont really do anything to you and you will just ignore it, but i felt that i should let you know.

heres my two cence on it. if you think jesus is perfect youve never read the bible and you just base your opinion on what people tell you. he was half man (unpure) and half god (pure) so yes he was unperfect. especially as a child. he would screw up sometimes. everyone in the bible did. if you havent guessed yet im christian

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Originally Posted by chadfitzy

heres my two cence on it. if you think jesus is perfect youve never read the bible and you just base your opinion on what people tell you. he was half man (unpure) and half god (pure) so yes he was unperfect. especially as a child. he would screw up sometimes. everyone in the bible did. if you havent guessed yet im christian

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so where in the bible, specifically did jesus screw up? If he wasn't perfect, then why would you worship him and why would be in a position to die for your sins?

when he was a kid he would disobay his parents and do normal human acts, such as fighting with other kids and things like this. we worship him because we believe he is the son of god and of man. i not trying to be a prick and force my religion on you if thats the way it comes off. if that is the way it comes of........sorry

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Originally Posted by chadfitzy

when he was a kid he would disobay his parents and do normal human acts, such as fighting with other kids and things like this. we worship him because we believe he is the son of god and of man. i not trying to be a prick and force my religion on you if thats the way it comes off. if that is the way it comes of........sorry

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So where in the bible are these stories of how jesus was a "bad" and normal kid. And if your earlier post is true then the bible is nothing but lies and hipocrocy because jesus was supposed to be the the lamb without sin and the sacrifice for your sins. He died sinless so you didn't have to die for your sins.

See I remember Johna and the whale, Noha's Ark, David and Golith but not jesus the neighborhood bully beats up lil muhattma for stealing his favorite sandals.


How about some specific examples here. Give us vesrus to back this up!