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this is a load of crap. they were drinking it to get funny. (drunk, in other words!) so what, if they didn't have a fridge? they didn't have to drink it, they were clear about the effects, and didn't think it was wrong, even Jesus encouraged people to drink, and that's what's important.Quote:
Originally Posted by yourdoomawaitsu
so therefore: if you think drinking is wrong, then jesus was wrong.
now i dont remember reading anywhere where it said he encouraged people to drink but im pretty sure that they knew what they were drinking was wine.
if you read the thread, you had your answer here. it's just a couple of pages back. try, it's not hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by XbassmanX
ok man, im just getting back into the church and i know that it's all they had to drink man and a far as jesus purifing the water, i think he had more important things to worry about man! They didn't even know the word "drunk" like you said it just made them feel funny if they drank to much, every person was therefore a casual drinker back then, but they didn't know they long term effects or anything. times change, just accept that!
please read this whole thread, since it's all addressed and a lot of things you say in this post just simply aren't true.Quote:
Originally Posted by yourdoomawaitsu
they did know the word drunk. there were people who traveled with jesus who didn't drink alcohol, and not everyone was a casual drinker. go look up the term nazarene.
yeah.Quote:
im just getting back into the church
ok what i said earlier about grapes feermenting on the vine wasnt entirely true
its only if they left them there for too long and rot started setting in did that happen
now i heard that around when the King James Version Bible was being written that they didnt have a word for juice so they referred to all juice as wine.
which would make sense if you read Proverbs 20:1 Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.
so if they had a word for juice (other than wine) then why would they mention the same thing right after another?
Give up.Quote:
Originally Posted by XbassmanX
this had me laughing out loud, everyone in the office was looking at me. I'm totally with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by PROPER JERK
I'm going to post this link to you again for the second time, this time, I suggest you actually read it.Quote:
Originally Posted by XbassmanX
http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/Con...114796842.html
what you're being fed is simply not true. I don't know why people fight so hard and make shit up because the reality of the situation is counter what they wish it was.
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Originally Posted by PROPER JERK
Greatest response ever!
ok you know
just because you say i cant believe in what i do and live the way i want doesnt mean im going to stop.
i believe in God
I am Straightedge
and im going to continue to be.
and just because you really deep down believe you're a dog, doesn't make it so. THe problem with this kind of response, and all of your responses is that you basically just want to put your fingers in your ears, ignore what anyone else is saying and go about your way. Which of course you're welcome to do, but just realize that deep down, you're wrong, and that if you actually believe in god, he's a vengeful god and he's going to be pissed that you think he's wrong for being a wino.Quote:
Originally Posted by XbassmanX
ps, you're also saying he's weak. good job!
I really cant believe that this conversation is still on going.
it will never end as long as there are christians that believe they are both or as long as there are christian sxe bandsQuote:
Originally Posted by stepinsideissue