Can You Be Christian And Straight Edge?

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Originally Posted by xsecx

it is about reasoning, but there are still things you can't do and still call yourself straight edge, regardless of how you want to try and view it and what you want to call law.

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ok, so accept that in some situation the sxe reasoning unlight by the laws can conduct do drink and not prefere to don't drink.


And in fact, if you are afraid to drink, it's because you are afraid to seem's not sxe.
But if you know what is good to do, and what it's dangerous, you stay more sxe : cause you don't do for the other who is looking to you. sxe enslave don't make don't a prisonier but being free.

If some friend comes to you and are enjoy to drink some bier, not to be drunk but cause they are not sxe and it's they way to express their friendship... what will look you? at the law ( and frustrated they in their feeling to be close with you)? or at what the sXe mean ?..

( and Alcoloh is not like heroin )

sXe is to weight all time good and bad.
law can't handle this, cause all situation are different even most look the same.

and for religious purpose -that the topic-, you can't crutch a sXe guy who want follow someone - that maybe you don't accept but he's more for sXe that against- juste because i drink some time wine for religious interresed..

this that who make me crazy.. it's not like if he drinks often.. but for his beliefs.
that's baddd ?
that'is why i say your reaction are exagerted when you weigh bad and good.
no?

( you can doesn't accept that a sXe follows jesus, but don't disguise the right reason by XXX argue.. )

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Originally Posted by yaoull

ok, so accept that in some situation the sxe reasoning unlight by the laws can conduct do drink and not prefere to don't drink.


And in fact, if you are afraid to drink, it's because you are afraid to seem's not sxe.
But if you know what is good to do, and what it's dangerous, you stay more sxe : cause you don't do for the other who is looking to you. sxe enslave don't make don't a prisonier but being free.

If some friend comes to you and are enjoy to drink some bier, not to be drunk but cause they are not sxe and it's they way to express their friendship... what will look you? at the law ( and frustrated they in their feeling to be close with you)? or at what the sXe mean ?..

( and Alcoloh is not like heroin )

sXe is to weight all time good and bad.
law can't handle this, cause all situation are different even most look the same.

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not really following you. I agree with you that people shouldn't feel compelled to be straight edge for the label or do thinks based on whether or not it makes them straight edge. That also though doesn't mean you could drink with your friend and still be straight edge. Straight edge is an extreme stance, so yes, we would treat alcohol the same as we would herion in terms of self consumption because your opinion on those substances and your reasons why you don't do them don't really change.

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Originally Posted by yaoull

and for religious purpose -that the topic-, you can't crutch a sXe guy who want follow someone - that maybe you don't accept but he's more for sXe that against- juste because i drink some time wine for religious interresed..

this that who make me crazy.. it's not like if he drinks often.. but for his beliefs.
that's baddd ?
that'is why i say your reaction are exagerted when you weigh bad and good.
no?

( you can doesn't accept that a sXe follows jesus, but don't disguise the right reason by XXX argue.. )

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it's not bad, but it's also not straight edge. If straight edge was about moderation then it wouldn't be an issue, but it isn't. straight edge is against the consumption of alcohol and the religious issues have more to do with disagreeing with god than anything else.

understand why i say you are religious : when you speak about your belief you say always: "it's against against against against"

so what? i'm not more avandced... what sxe is it FOR ?
it's seem's you know well what it's not, like religious who speak about belief they don't understant, or monkey who try to be like human... but the principal motor you don't seems to see it, speak about...

hardcore comes to bring life where there was no futur. and you speak like a punk who are find a new mask: you dont' see where you can go to rise up, but you know where you risk to die... you always speak about death and wrong at the end..
And that is not sXe at all !!

build. don't try to see where that is falling down : let's that to the punk.
sXe looks at where we can go, and not at where we can't go. rise up :)

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Originally Posted by yaoull

understand why i say you are religious : when you speak about your belief you say always: "it's against against against against"

so what? i'm not more avandced... what sxe is it FOR ?
it's seem's you know well what it's not, like religious who speak about belief they don't understant, or monkey who try to be like human... but the principal motor you don't seems to see it, speak about...

hardcore comes to bring life where there was no futur. and you speak like a punk who are find a new mask: you dont' see where you can go to rise up, but you know where you risk to die... you always speak about death and wrong at the end..
And that is not sXe at all !!

build. don't try to see where that is falling down : let's that to the punk.
sXe looks at where we can go, and not at where we can't go. rise up :)

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ok. so then what is straight edge, define it for me.

all you blindfoldedlyspoonfedwithyourreligionchristianswho dontknowtheirownreligionandcantseeyourselvesbeingp rovedwrongandjustadmititandtoodumbtoseethewholeiss uethrough make me wanna vomit my breakfast from yesterday! Wise up already

it's a reaction of destruction way of life punk who inspire a really rise up and will to live.
To look at what we can build up instead of looking of the wrong of this world. The will is to give us a chance, altough the world is not pink.

In this way we want have a correct life in respecting ourself and other people ( that why the tripleXXX), and after the other being too cause we are linked ( the 4th X, for vegetan, always for building life preoccupation )

It's about rise punkish to the right direction, to not stand front of the wall and grow up the mouvement where negatif and fatalistik attitude had block him.

all values are for create a mouvement, positive mouvement for enlace life.
the XXX are created for this, and not this for the XXX.


And i don't reconnize this in your "seeking the wrong" attitude.

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Originally Posted by yaoull

it's a reaction of destruction way of life punk who inspire a really rise up and will to live.
To look at what we can build up instead of looking of the wrong of this world. The will is to give us a chance, altough the world is not pink.

In this way we want have a correct life in respecting ourself and other people ( that why the tripleXXX), and after the other being too cause we are linked ( the 4th X, for vegetan, always for building life preoccupation )

It's about rise punkish to the right direction, to not stand front of the wall and grow up the mouvement where negatif and fatalistik attitude had block him.

all values are for create a mouvement, positive mouvement for enlace life.
the XXX are created for this, and not this for the XXX.


And i don't reconnize this in your "seeking the wrong" attitude.

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this is rhetoric and not a definition. What makes someone straight edge? what do they believe? What do they do? What do those X's you keep referencing refer to?

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Originally Posted by xriseupx

That's cool dude. I don't really care, man... Awesome that you found scripture where Christ consumed wine. He didn't abuse it. It wasn't recreational as I stated.

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It was recreational, i even posted a defintion of the word recreational for you and you still can't seem to understand what that word means. If you get one thing from this thread please let it be an understanding of the word recreational.

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Originally Posted by xriseupx

The world has turned into a shittier place since then. I wish there weren't psychoactives, including alcohol.
Hell, even grape juice contains a very miniscule level of alcohol... Do you now have a problem with grape juice?
Just how far does this go before you don't consume anything at all? Foods, water, anything... I mean, how do you know if your water doesn't contain some chemicals that you strongly hate?

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now you are asking how people know water isn't somekind of drug, dude you are seriously reaching.

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Originally Posted by xriseupx

But, dude... Argue all you want... Keep on... As I've said, again and again... I'll answer questions... I'll explain views... But I won't argue anymore. Go break your leg in 5 places and tell the hospital you refuse painkillers because your edge... That'll be great.

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But you don't answer questions, you completely ignore entire posts! And what the hell makes you think anyone would refuse painkillers, you are fabricating everything you are arguing against in your head and completely ignoring what is actually being discussed.

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Originally Posted by xriseupx

It's a waste of time. I won't argue.
As my last 3 entries have been, I won't argue... And my future entries will not be arguments either. So keep on...

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Well seeing as you can't really make cohesive points its probably best you don't argue. If you could actually answer the points raised to illuminate exactly why your stance isn't contradictive then people would accept what you say but i've yet to see you do that. All you have established is your reasoning for your stance not being contradictive is completely unproovable and you are happy for it to contradict the bible. Its not exactly a water tight argument is it.

well great, XXX is for you the definition of straig edge..
You do XXX for be a straigh edge, but I do XXX CAUSE i'm a straigh edge.

You believe being a straigh edge cause you do XXX, but you don't understand that because you are straig edge that you will do XXX, not the contrary.
it's just empty.

And for the X of sexe, how do understand? = no sexe? no changing partenair?
You exactly know why X.X.X are been set up, the spirit of this X meaning, so why stay blind for alcool?

Go on to believe it's a movement centered around abstince.
i'm sad for your girlfriend if it's your way to live the third X.
i'm sad for your life if it's your way to feel sXe


3rd X is about fidelity, about love : not about abstince of infidelity or abstince of anythingelse..

your legalism make you weird.

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Originally Posted by yaoull

well great, XXX is for you the definition of straig edge..
You do XXX for be a straigh edge, but I do XXX CAUSE i'm a straigh edge.

You believe being a straigh edge cause you do XXX, but you don't understand that because you are straig edge that you will do XXX, not the contrary.
it's just empty.

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XXX is not a definiton of straight edge.

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And for the X of sexe, how do understand? = no sexe? no changing partenair?
You exactly know why X.X.X are been set up, the spirit of this X meaning, so why stay blind for alcool?

Go on to believe it's a movement centered around abstince.
i'm sad for your girlfriend if it's your way to live the third X.
i'm sad for your life if it's your way to feel sXe


3rd X is about fidelity, about love : not about abstince of infidelity or abstince of anythingelse..

your legalism make you weird.

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with your comments you just made clear to everyone you don't know what straight edge is

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Originally Posted by yaoull

well great, XXX is for you the definition of straig edge..
You do XXX for be a straigh edge, but I do XXX CAUSE i'm a straigh edge.

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no it's not. where did I say that I don't do things so I can be straight edge?

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You believe being a straigh edge cause you do XXX, but you don't understand that because you are straig edge that you will do XXX, not the contrary.
it's just empty.

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um, no I don't.

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And for the X of sexe, how do understand? = no sexe? no changing partenair?
You exactly know why X.X.X are been set up, the spirit of this X meaning, so why stay blind for alcool?

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what are you basing this statement on?

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Go on to believe it's a movement centered around abstince.
i'm sad for your girlfriend if it's your way to live the third X.
i'm sad for your life if it's your way to feel sXe

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Do you understand what the word abstince means in english?
Main Entry: ab·sti·nence
Pronunciation: 'ab-st&-n&n(t)s
Function: noun
2 : habitual abstaining from intoxicating beverages

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3rd X is about fidelity, about love : not about abstince of infidelity or abstince of anythingelse..

your legalism make you weird.

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your weird uses of XXX's makes you weird. You talk about legalism and then use X's instead of "you don't do" and then talk about the meaning behind it. Straight edge has criteria that you can't do to be straight edge. That's what you're using those X's to represent. The actual reality is that the XXX doesn't actually have any real substantial meaning and were just taken from a dischord record that used the X's instead of stars in the DC flag.

This has been one of the most fucked up conversations that I've read in a long time.

ok, dont appreciate the digs at techno. techno is pretty cool, electonic music is amazing.
i personally am i christian, sxe and i dont like screamo music!
what does that mean yall are gonna kick me out? if so then what i thought i belonged to isn't that at all.

God is a personal belief, since when does anyone have the right to discriminate against that? and actually almost every sxe person in milwaukee [where i live] does believe in God.

God and the Bible specifically say not to get drunk and im sure that if Jesus would have had something else to drink he would have.