Can You Be Christian And Straight Edge?

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Originally Posted by xsecx

they're saying that god is wrong. so yeah. they would be. It all comes down to the same point, if jesus is god and god is perfect then jesus is perfect, how can you find fault in anything that jesus did? How can you be right and jesus be wrong?

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lol..oh man, you have a lot to learn. word of advice, don't pass judgement on christians when you aren't christian yourself.

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Originally Posted by xMoranXArmyx

lol..oh man, you have a lot to learn. word of advice, don't pass judgement on christians when you aren't christian yourself.

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see, when people have a problem with a subject, and know they can't talk about it, they normally bust out the "you don't understand" "you've got a lot to learn" statements and then don't actually support those statements at all.

why can't I pass judgements on christians and why would I need to be one myself to?

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Originally Posted by xsecx

see, when people have a problem with a subject, and know they can't talk about it, they normally bust out the "you don't understand" "you've got a lot to learn" statements and then don't actually support those statements at all.

why can't I pass judgements on christians and why would I need to be one myself to?

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so ultimately you are an authoritarian on the Church, xsecx?

i'll be waiting for your bestselling book on how "Christians who don't drink alcohol are going to hell"

i'll be waiting for your bestselling book on how "Christians who don't drink alcohol are going to hell" I mean, with all those credentials, how could you not be wrong!

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Originally Posted by xMoranXArmyx

i'll be waiting for your bestselling book on how "Christians who don't drink alcohol are going to hell"

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did you seriously read anything in this thread?

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Originally Posted by xMoranXArmyx

so ultimately you are an authoritarian on the Church, xsecx?

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so ultimately you can't actually talk about what's being discussed?

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Originally Posted by xsecx

so ultimately you can't actually talk about what's being discussed?

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lol...there's a difference between a Christian telling a Christian how to live his/her life and a fuckin non-christian telling a christian how he/she should live life.

but no, i'm not an authoritarian either, and if you are gonna continue to argue with me, you will not break new ground. it's a lost cause. i'll just leave this forum, never to bother you guys again. However, i will say that this forum is extremely un-helpful. lol...what a crock of shit. to those in here who have been helpful, thank you. its sXe assholes that discourage people in society to go edge for fear they might be rejected and made fun of.

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Originally Posted by xMoranXArmyx

lol...there's a difference between a Christian telling a Christian how to live his/her life and a fuckin non-christian telling a christian how he/she should live life.

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then go find some christians that believe that jesus is god and perfect and that you can't contradict him. shouldn't be hard. Not really sure how it's any different, since all anyone here is saying is that if you're going to be christian you should actually follow your religion.

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but no, i'm not an authoritarian either, and if you are gonna continue to argue with me, you will not break new ground. it's a lost cause. i'll just leave this forum, never to bother you guys again. However, i will say that this forum is extremely un-helpful. lol...what a crock of shit. to those in here who have been helpful, thank you. its sXe assholes that discourage people in society to go edge for fear they might be rejected and made fun of.

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because you don't actually read or understand what's being discussed. I'm not really sure how it's unhelpful, since hardcore, punk and underground music in general has a really long and vocal history of being at best at odds with christianity and at worst very anti christian.

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Originally Posted by xsecx

I'm not really sure how it's unhelpful, since hardcore, punk and underground music in general has a really long and vocal history of being at best at odds with christianity and at worst very anti christian.

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Oh, I didn't know playing notes of music in a specific order could be anti-christian.

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Originally Posted by THEGROUPCONSCIOUS

Oh, I didn't know playing notes of music in a specific order could be anti-christian.

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oh, I'm sure you're not aware that notes of music in a specific order have things called lyrics to accompany them.

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Originally Posted by xMoranXArmyx

lol..oh man, you have a lot to learn. word of advice, don't pass judgement on christians when you aren't christian yourself.

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Why not. They have no problem passing judgement on those that aren't. Fucking hypocrites.

I haven't read all of the posts in this thread, but I think I have an idea of main arguments. I believe that a certain ammount of drinking is not immoral according to the Bible, but I have also decided not to consume alcohol because I don't want to be a part of that scene. How does being a Christian, in this sense, keep me from being sXe? Sorry if you already answered this question earlier, I didn't see anything that cleared this question up for me.

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Originally Posted by xMoranXArmyx

lol..oh man, you have a lot to learn. word of advice, don't pass judgement on christians when you aren't christian yourself.

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Dumb advice.

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Originally Posted by stepinsideissue

Why not. They have no problem passing judgement on those that aren't. Fucking hypocrites.

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Christians don't claim to be perfect. The "judgments" most Christians are passing when they are accused of being hypocrites, are only statements of thier beliefs about morality. Christians know they aren't able to live up to the standards that are set before them. No one can hope to live a perfect life (This is where a preacher would insert a message on grace). Christians are supposed to help people see what they are doing wrong to help them, not to hurt them. Not all Christians are good at this, but I don't think that's any reason to blow off all Christians.

-sorry if this is off topic

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Originally Posted by jim

I haven't read all of the posts in this thread, but I think I have an idea of main arguments. I believe that a certain ammount of drinking is not immoral according to the Bible, but I have also decided not to consume alcohol because I don't want to be a part of that scene. How does being a Christian, in this sense, keep me from being sXe? Sorry if you already answered this question earlier, I didn't see anything that cleared this question up for me.

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because people who are edge believe that any amount of drinking alcohol is wrong and shouldn't be consumed. This belief is in direct contradiction to the to your statement of " I believe that a certain ammount of drinking is not immoral according to the Bible,"