Can You Be Christian And Straight Edge?

so ultimately, to end this tiff, i am not sXe because i am christian...therefore, must i renounce my faith to become sXe?

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Originally Posted by xMoranXArmyx

so ultimately, to end this tiff, i am not sXe because i am christian...therefore, must i renounce my faith to become sXe?

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i plead the fifth

lol...so many technicalities....ARGGG!!!

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Originally Posted by xMoranXArmyx

lol...so many technicalities....ARGGG!!!

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indeed, it is a technical lifestyle.

well, im going to go get some rice milk and hit the sack. its almost 2 am, and i have to be up in 5 hours. good luck on finding the answer to your question

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Originally Posted by xMoranXArmyx

so ultimately, to end this tiff, i am not sXe because i am christian...therefore, must i renounce my faith to become sXe?

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i'd say, you are a phony sxe, and a phony christian if you think you can be both. the contradiction is clear, and i'M glad you accept this, unlike most christians on this board who are extremely one-sided.
you can't be christian and edge

well, i was discouraged quickly...lol...i dunno, perhaps we should consult the sXe God's for assistance

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Originally Posted by xMoranXArmyx

well, i was discouraged quickly...lol...i dunno, perhaps we should consult the sXe God's for assistance

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no seriously, i'm kidding...but yeah dude, didnt realize that sXe really got down to the nitty gritty...i thought it would be open to christianity...does this mean i can no longer post on here?

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Originally Posted by xMoranXArmyx

no seriously, i'm kidding...but yeah dude, didnt realize that sXe really got down to the nitty gritty...i thought it would be open to christianity...does this mean i can no longer post on here?

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i suggest you think your life through. if you're committed to christianity that much, i guess you should just not call yourself sxe, to avoid looking dumb (like the other "sxe" christians on here.) you can enjoy being drug free without the label sxe anyway...

This is pathetic. Like Christianity, Straight Edge should be a personal thing. If you have to ask "Because of this technicallity, am I still straight edge?" You probably never were to begin with. It's pretty lame when you have to ask other people how to live your life based on thier own fractured opinions.

It seems to me that these sxe Christians are a lot more open and loving in every way about this and about not being discriminative. Hmmmm.... don't the atheists and agnostics normally yell at Christians about being self-righteous assholes? Seems like you guys have this thing backwards.





Now, to address the Jesus >> Wine >> Distributing thing...

Jesus was in fact perfect, even though he drank "wine". Contrary to popular beliefs on this board, Jesus was not wasted 24/7 like some people would have you to believe. Wine was NOT the only drink available in the area. Saying that it was is bullshit. Water was very abundant, you know the story... Jesus gets into town... he's tired and thristy.... the hooker goes and gets him water to drink from the well... that hooker was Mary.

Yes, some people did get drunk though: The atheists, agnostics, and pagens...

There were many different potencies and proofs though. Dinner wine was basically just barely fermented, where as the wine the drunkards consumed were a much higher dose. In essence, you had different brands. Then you had the "wine" that was grape juice.

When Jesus turned water to wine he made grape juice... the people were already drunk so they couldn't tell the difference.

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Originally Posted by xMoranXArmyx

it just seems that sXe is only reserved for agnostics and aetheists and other forms of religion other than christianity....am i correct? this seems strange since i thought that sXe was against forms of discrimination

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what makes you think this is a problem with straight edge and not a problem with christianity?

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Originally Posted by THEGROUPCONSCIOUS

This is pathetic. Like Christianity, Straight Edge should be a personal thing. If you have to ask "Because of this technicallity, am I still straight edge?" You probably never were to begin with. It's pretty lame when you have to ask other people how to live your life based on thier own fractured opinions.

It seems to me that these sxe Christians are a lot more open and loving in every way about this and about not being discriminative. Hmmmm.... don't the atheists and agnostics normally yell at Christians about being self-righteous assholes? Seems like you guys have this thing backwards.





Now, to address the Jesus >> Wine >> Distributing thing...

Jesus was in fact perfect, even though he drank "wine". Contrary to popular beliefs on this board, Jesus was not wasted 24/7 like some people would have you to believe. Wine was NOT the only drink available in the area. Saying that it was is bullshit. Water was very abundant, you know the story... Jesus gets into town... he's tired and thristy.... the hooker goes and gets him water to drink from the well... that hooker was Mary.

Yes, some people did get drunk though: The atheists, agnostics, and pagens...

There were many different potencies and proofs though. Dinner wine was basically just barely fermented, where as the wine the drunkards consumed were a much higher dose. In essence, you had different brands. Then you had the "wine" that was grape juice.

When Jesus turned water to wine he made grape juice... the people were already drunk so they couldn't tell the difference.

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Considering you think you can drink and be edge, let's just take your views on what straight edge is or should be with a grain of salt. You also are failing to understand the arguement and using terms like discriminatory clearly demonstrates that.

you don't actually read what people write do you? Point to me where anyone said anything about jesus being drunk.

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Originally Posted by THEGROUPCONSCIOUS

This is pathetic. Like Christianity, Straight Edge should be a personal thing. If you have to ask "Because of this technicallity, am I still straight edge?" You probably never were to begin with. It's pretty lame when you have to ask other people how to live your life based on thier own fractured opinions.

It seems to me that these sxe Christians are a lot more open and loving in every way about this and about not being discriminative. Hmmmm.... don't the atheists and agnostics normally yell at Christians about being self-righteous assholes? Seems like you guys have this thing backwards.





Now, to address the Jesus >> Wine >> Distributing thing...

Jesus was in fact perfect, even though he drank "wine". Contrary to popular beliefs on this board, Jesus was not wasted 24/7 like some people would have you to believe. Wine was NOT the only drink available in the area. Saying that it was is bullshit. Water was very abundant, you know the story... Jesus gets into town... he's tired and thristy.... the hooker goes and gets him water to drink from the well... that hooker was Mary.

Yes, some people did get drunk though: The atheists, agnostics, and pagens...

There were many different potencies and proofs though. Dinner wine was basically just barely fermented, where as the wine the drunkards consumed were a much higher dose. In essence, you had different brands. Then you had the "wine" that was grape juice.

When Jesus turned water to wine he made grape juice... the people were already drunk so they couldn't tell the difference.

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yeah man, i don't really take orders from ppl over the internet. truth be told, most of the people i have encountered on this message board are pricks and instead of being helpful, love to shoot others down. perhaps they were abused as children. i really don't know. however, there have been a few of you on here who have been helpful and thank you. i was under the impression that sXe enveloped the ideas of Anti-Alcohol, Anti-Drug, Anti-Tobacco, and Anti-Promiscuous sex. I thought that sXe was a purely secular thing. All of a sudden, I'm now hearing that if you are christian you are banned from sXe all together. Three words: I'm Fuckin' Confused. I get one response that's like, good for you man, welcome to the sXe life, keep it up. And then i hear, you don't belong here...you can never experience a pure sXe life. What the fuck is going on? Anti-Alcohol, Anti-Drug, Anti-Tobacco, Anti-Promiscuous sex is what I'm bent on preserving. Does this mean that if i can't be sXe and believe in christ, then are you all implying that living in a society dominated by vices is something that we should eradicate by killing people mercilessly because of this cause? The Group Conscious is right, sXe is a self righteous thing. Why are we attacking eachother? Again, i believed that Christianity and sXe embraced some of the same things. Healthy mind, body, and spirit. It's funny how most people are narrow minded. I fully believe that one can be christian and sXe. What would Ian McKaye say? Why don't we ask him? I'm not trying to attack anyone here, just make a statement about what I've seen. This is one of the most un-welcoming forums out here.

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Originally Posted by xMoranXArmyx

yeah man, i don't really take orders from ppl over the internet. truth be told, most of the people i have encountered on this message board are pricks and instead of being helpful, love to shoot others down. perhaps they were abused as children. i really don't know. however, there have been a few of you on here who have been helpful and thank you. i was under the impression that sXe enveloped the ideas of Anti-Alcohol, Anti-Drug, Anti-Tobacco, and Anti-Promiscuous sex. I thought that sXe was a purely secular thing. All of a sudden, I'm now hearing that if you are christian you are banned from sXe all together. Three words: I'm Fuckin' Confused. I get one response that's like, good for you man, welcome to the sXe life, keep it up. And then i hear, you don't belong here...you can never experience a pure sXe life. What the fuck is going on? Anti-Alcohol, Anti-Drug, Anti-Tobacco, Anti-Promiscuous sex is what I'm bent on preserving. Does this mean that if i can't be sXe and believe in christ, then are you all implying that living in a society dominated by vices is something that we should eradicate by killing people mercilessly because of this cause? The Group Conscious is right, sXe is a self righteous thing. Why are we attacking eachother? Again, i believed that Christianity and sXe embraced some of the same things. Healthy mind, body, and spirit. It's funny how most people are narrow minded. I fully believe that one can be christian and sXe. What would Ian McKaye say? Why don't we ask him? I'm not trying to attack anyone here, just make a statement about what I've seen. This is one of the most un-welcoming forums out here.

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this is what happens when all you do is read a title and not actually read what a thread says or what it's about. Christiantiy isn't anti-alcohol. straight edge is. yet you are trying to turn this isn't how we're going to discriminate against you? I suggest you go back and actually read the tread and see where the issue actually is.

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Originally Posted by xsecx

this is what happens when all you do is read a title and not actually read what a thread says or what it's about. Christiantiy isn't anti-alcohol. straight edge is. yet you are trying to turn this isn't how we're going to discriminate against you? I suggest you go back and actually read the tread and see where the issue actually is.

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christianity isn't anti alcohol, yet they never say that you MUST consume alcohol in order to become closer to God. Jesus offered wine as "his blood" HOWEVER, it is your choice to consume it. Also if christianity isnt anti-alcohol, then Christian sects like seventh day adventists and mormons must be going to hell right? After all, they do not believe in taking alcohol because their bodies are temples.

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Originally Posted by xMoranXArmyx

christianity isn't anti alcohol, yet they never say that you MUST consume alcohol in order to become closer to God. Jesus offered wine as "his blood" HOWEVER, it is your choice to consume it. Also if christianity isnt anti-alcohol, then Christian sects like seventh day adventists and mormons must be going to hell right? After all, they do not believe in taking alcohol because their bodies are temples.

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they're saying that god is wrong. so yeah. they would be. It all comes down to the same point, if jesus is god and god is perfect then jesus is perfect, how can you find fault in anything that jesus did? How can you be right and jesus be wrong?