Can You Be Christian And Straight Edge?

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03-17-2006, 10:54 AM
THEGROUPCONSCIOUS

When "Straight Edge" first came about, it was never about a No Tolerence Policy. it was about not getting fucked up. If you have one glass of wine, its not going to fuck you up, but it could lead to that, which is bad. But, if you do drugs then your reality is automatically inpaired, rendering you out of control of your bady. Hence, making you fucked up. Same with sex. It was never about chastity and not having sex, it was about staying in control of your body and only having sex with one partner. The image of straight edge that we have today is a bastardized, raped, and mutated form and a warped reality of what it should be.

Straight edge is about staying in control of your body, NOT about a no tolerence policy.
03-17-2006, 01:00 PM
XBILLYX

when i tried saying that i couldnt fine the words. dusty will tell you thats not true, or atleast he did me.
03-17-2006, 01:38 PM
xsecx

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Originally Posted by THEGROUPCONSCIOUS

When "Straight Edge" first came about, it was never about a No Tolerence Policy. it was about not getting fucked up. If you have one glass of wine, its not going to fuck you up, but it could lead to that, which is bad. But, if you do drugs then your reality is automatically inpaired, rendering you out of control of your bady. Hence, making you fucked up. Same with sex. It was never about chastity and not having sex, it was about staying in control of your body and only having sex with one partner. The image of straight edge that we have today is a bastardized, raped, and mutated form and a warped reality of what it should be.

Straight edge is about staying in control of your body, NOT about a no tolerence policy.

when "straight edge" came about as a movement, and not a song, it was actually about a no tolerence policy. Unless you have some evidence that it wasn't?
03-17-2006, 01:38 PM
xsecx

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Originally Posted by XBILLYX

when i tried saying that i couldnt fine the words. dusty will tell you thats not true, or atleast he did me.

that's because it's not true. unless you want to tell me how you drink a beer and still be straight edge?
03-17-2006, 03:17 PM
XBILLYX

i cant. i dont think you can drink a beer and be sXe. i forgot he had said the no Tolerence Policy. but i agree with its all about control.
03-17-2006, 05:17 PM
xsecx

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i cant. i dont think you can drink a beer and be sXe. i forgot he had said the no Tolerence Policy. but i agree with its all about control.

no one ever said that it wasn't all about control.
03-17-2006, 05:25 PM
THEGROUPCONSCIOUS

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Originally Posted by xsecx

when "straight edge" came about as a movement, and not a song, it was actually about a no tolerence policy. Unless you have some evidence that it wasn't?

Well, I am going by what Ian has said in articles and interviews about it. It wasn't like a caucus sat down and said "THIS IS STRAIGHT EDGE" ... its personal beliefs and personal choices.

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Ian Mackaye:

"From my point of view, I am not interested in intolerance. I am interested in respect for people's decisions in their lives. I have my own opinions and I live my own fucking life by those opinions. If someone leaned on me, told me what to do, I would tell them to fuck off. People who did that really pissed me off."

"All Ages: Reflections on Straight Edge"
By Beth Lahickey
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03-17-2006, 05:27 PM
xsecx

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Originally Posted by THEGROUPCONSCIOUS

Well, I am going by what Ian has said in articles and interviews about it. It wasn't like a caucus sat down and said "THIS IS STRAIGHT EDGE" ... its personal beliefs and personal choices.

please read the part where it says became a movement. when that happened ian mackaye had nothing to do with it and who's opinion on the subject doesn't really matter at this point.

PSF: How did the idea of 'straight-edge' come about?

It was just the title of a song that i wrote. I guess I coined the phrase but certainly never intended to start a movement.

PSF: Do you still follow this?

I am still straight, but have never really been involved with the 'straight edge movement'.

http://www.furious.com/PERFECT/fugazi.html
03-17-2006, 05:51 PM
THEGROUPCONSCIOUS

When did I ever say that I embrace the movement? I embrace the lifestyle. When it becomes a movement, it becomes a trend.
03-17-2006, 09:01 PM
xsecx

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Originally Posted by THEGROUPCONSCIOUS

When did I ever say that I embrace the movement? I embrace the lifestyle. When it becomes a movement, it becomes a trend.

there is no lifestyle, there's only the movement at this point. And since it became a movement 20 years ago, I'm not really sure what your point is since no one involved in straight edge would agree with you that drinking a beer would be ok.
03-18-2006, 07:24 PM
XBILLYX

iam dumb and disagree with dusty on alot of things but its a movement no doubt.
03-19-2006, 05:19 AM
SgtD

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Originally Posted by XBILLYX

iam dumb

we all knew about this!
03-19-2006, 09:38 AM
stepinsideissue

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Originally Posted by SgtD

we all knew about this!

Hahaha if the shoe fits right?
03-19-2006, 10:02 AM
SgtD

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Originally Posted by stepinsideissue

Hahaha if the shoe fits right?

n/t
03-19-2006, 10:27 AM
stepinsideissue

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Originally Posted by SgtD

n/t

n/t ?????

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