Can You Be Christian And Straight Edge?

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03-15-2006, 03:04 PM
SgtD

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Originally Posted by atXdawnXweXburn

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...termission.jpg

let's all just take a break, eat some s'mores, and sing a nice song...

im singin in the rain
just singin in the rain
what a glorious feelin
i'm happy again

hippie!
03-15-2006, 03:06 PM
SgtD

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Originally Posted by XBILLYX

yes, remember he died on the cross for are sins. he died so we didnt have to do the old rituals such as drink whine.

seems like you don't really get the christian belief!
03-15-2006, 03:49 PM
collin

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Originally Posted by xsecx

yeah. here's the problem you're a human. you're not immortal. you're not supernatural. you're not omniscient. you aren't perfect. god by the very fact of what it is, is. so, somehow you think you can disagree with god on ANYTHING and think that it's ok.

Dude, nobody said christians are immortal...jesus died so that we don't have to be anything other than his followers. i'm not going to drink, but i'm not going to be crucified or walk on water. does that mean that i'm disagreeing with god because I'm not doing exactly what his son did?
03-15-2006, 03:59 PM
atXdawnXweXburn

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Originally Posted by SgtD

hippie!

nah, i just like s'mores and old fred astaire movies.
03-15-2006, 04:07 PM
collin

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Originally Posted by atXdawnXweXburn

nah, i just like s'mores and old fred astaire movies.

i'm more of a frank sinatra guy myself, never cared much for ol' fred...
03-15-2006, 04:24 PM
atXdawnXweXburn

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Originally Posted by collin

i'm more of a frank sinatra guy myself, never cared much for ol' fred...

indeed, ol' blue eyes was quite the singer.
03-15-2006, 04:55 PM
xsecx

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Originally Posted by collin

Dude, nobody said christians are immortal...jesus died so that we don't have to be anything other than his followers. i'm not going to drink, but i'm not going to be crucified or walk on water. does that mean that i'm disagreeing with god because I'm not doing exactly what his son did?

thanks for demonstrating that you don't even understand the issue.
03-15-2006, 07:00 PM
XshiXnyX

You know, Im really suprised that this thread has even gotten to 25 pages

hmmm, Now if I could just find that one picture...
03-15-2006, 10:01 PM
XBILLYX

yea better then you do apparently. now i figured out why its so hard for you to see it. i was haveing a hard time why you didnt get it. but you said you were raised chritian not that you accepted christ and you became a christain. if you did you would see his insight. do you understand no you dont hes not in you. he lives in me i disagree with drinking so iam a christian and sXe
03-15-2006, 10:04 PM
xsecx

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Originally Posted by XBILLYX

yea better then you do apparently. now i figured out why its so hard for you to see it. i was haveing a hard time why you didnt get it. but you said you were raised chritian not that you accepted christ and you became a christain. if you did you would see his insight. do you understand no you dont hes not in you. he lives in me i disagree with drinking so iam a christian and sXe

yeah, because you somehow believe him dying for your sins is somehow related to you being able to to think that jesus was something he wasn't capable of. How can he live in someone that doesn't believe he's god?
03-15-2006, 10:16 PM
XBILLYX

see i do you dont. he lives in me. so your saying he was incapale of not drinking?
03-15-2006, 10:19 PM
xsecx

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Originally Posted by XBILLYX

see i do you dont. he lives in me. so your saying he was incapale of not drinking?

man you're dense. I'm saying that if Jesus was god he isn't capable of being wrong. You're saying not only was he capable, but that he was wrong. Jesus drank. Jesue provided alcohol to others. You believe that drinking is wrong and that the behavior that jesus did was wrong. So what else were jesus and god wrong about? Do you kids honestly don't get that you can't think anything jesus did on any level is wrong or it completely fucks up your religion?
03-15-2006, 10:20 PM
XshiXnyX

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Originally Posted by xsecx

man you're dense. I'm saying that if Jesus was god he isn't capable of being wrong. You're saying not only was he capable, but that he was wrong. Jesus drank. Jesue provided alcohol to others. You believe that drinking is wrong and that the behavior that jesus did was wrong. So what else were jesus and god wrong about? Do you kids honestly don't get that you can't think anything jesus did on any level is wrong or it completely fucks up your religion?

So what if we dont believe that jesus was god, or that jesus is perfect?
03-15-2006, 10:22 PM
XBILLYX

dont you get it. the whine meant nothing to him. it was a symbol of his blood! being that it was whine wasnt the point. it could have been anything.
03-15-2006, 10:27 PM
xsecx

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Originally Posted by XBILLYX

dont you get it. the whine meant nothing to him. it was a symbol of his blood! being that it was whine wasnt the point. it could have been anything.

don't you get it, he drank wine because culturally,historically and traditionally it's what people did and continue to do. It couldn't have been anything because it was the passover meal, if you're talking about the eucharist. He could have turned water into anything, but he CHOSE wine. Your god had no problem with people drinking wine, yet you somehow do. So I'm still wondering, what else was god and jesus wrong about? What else do you know better than they do about?

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