yes, by god. ok, let's say you're right and i'm living my life under the "manipulation" of religion. What have i lost or missed out on?Quote:
Originally Posted by straightXed
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yes, by god. ok, let's say you're right and i'm living my life under the "manipulation" of religion. What have i lost or missed out on?Quote:
Originally Posted by straightXed
You choose because they keep giving you false answers until you shut off from anything that would contradict the idea of god. And now you accept it because you have associated a certain feeling with the idea of god and aren't willing to accept it could be anything else. Its a manipulative process.Quote:
Originally Posted by collin
no, i've heard all of the arguments against god, but i still choose to believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by straightXed
You miss out being free from manipulative ideas and doctrines and you give yourself to the idea of god rather than being open to ideas that differ from this.Quote:
Originally Posted by collin
You see, a classic response. Someone could paint a flawless picture as to why god doesn't exist but due to manipulation you refuse to accept them.Quote:
Originally Posted by collin
Free will.Quote:
Originally Posted by collin
not due to manipulation, my choice is one of freewill.Quote:
Originally Posted by straightXed
And you will continue to tell yourself that because you aren't prepared to substitute myth and fallacy for reason, logic and common sense. When you do find certain a certain discrepancy between what you think and what your religion says you meld your religions words to sound more like what you want them to sound like and thats why you disagree with the bible of issues like homosexuality. And thats why even within christianity no one agrees, you are all crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by collin
Holy Crap! Still On This?!
why has christianity changed?Quote:
Originally Posted by xCAMIx
theres 5 kids i knwo that are straight edge and they all go to my church. also if u cant be straight edge and christian then why are there christian straightedge bands? uc an be christian and straight edge. if u say u cant becasue jesus drank that amkes u hate edge. so yeah u can be both.
i don't know where you get this bullshit, hate edge means hardline.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scooter
you can think that you are sxe and christian at the same time, if you wish. but just think it through, how the two beliefs contradict themselves.
as for christian edge bands, i always thought that even christian hardcore bands were hypocrits because of the christian beliefs are lame, and in my eyes hardcore and punk has been against it since day 1
hate edge and hardline mean totally different things.Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtD
see, here's my problem with this response. people have been reasons as to why the 2 contradict each other, complete with biblical and historical references. the standard christian response so far has been, "uh yeah you can" but then doesn't actually explain why there isn't a conflict.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scooter
This response is all thanks to people endlessly sugar coating their religion untill it satisfies them even going so far as to even give it upQuote:
Originally Posted by straightXed