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Originally Posted by xsecx
And with that statement we could point out half a dozen hipocrocies in Billy's beliefs.
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Originally Posted by xsecx
And with that statement we could point out half a dozen hipocrocies in Billy's beliefs.
I will take that, but I want 100-1 odds.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsecx
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Originally Posted by mouseman004
I say you can have what ever odds you want! He's still an idiot and you're gonna lose your money. Dusty made the original bet so I guess the odds would be up to him.
well i guess dusty wins. i believe that jesus died to save us and all that but find i hate and want to hurt people and as a christian you dont do that and i found i hated my self more and more every day trying to change the way i felt towards people.Quote:
Originally Posted by stepinsideissue
i guess by refusing him i am going to hell yeah me.
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Originally Posted by XBILLYX
NO. Jesus may have died to save you but he didn't die to save me.
please change your title to "everybody's thorn" thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by XBILLYX
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Originally Posted by SgtD
I know he's a thorn in my side.
no i wont. i dont care if he didnt die for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtD
i didn't say Dusty died for me! He didn't even die. I hope he is going to live a logn, full and healthy life actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by XBILLYX
We are all drug free, none of us will die!Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtD
Well, most of us are drug free...Quote:
Originally Posted by D1988
don't cry for me, I'm already dead.
You are on your way buddy, you will be as awesome as us in no time.Quote:
Originally Posted by mouseman004
In Dusty's name we pray, Amen.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsecx
you see, you're a lousy christian for sure!Quote:
Originally Posted by PROPER JERK
Well now...
I've been gone for over 4 months and the first thing I see when I'm ready to make a return in more Chritian garbage. Yes, pure fucking garbage.
Here's the deal my friend. If you're Christian, you're not Edge. Religion is toxic. As toxic as dope and booze - it messes with your head and thus dosn't let you take proper control of your life.
Now I could go on and on about the contradictions and such, but I've noticed the others have covered this in the almost 50 pages of useless "back-and-forth" chatter.
So I'll make it simple for you so that maybe you can stop ready that big old miss-translated half-assed book you call a bible and start thinking for yourself.
Jesus never existed, plain and simple. There was never even a man born of the name Jesus who ever claimed to be the messiah at any given time through the almost 10 000 years of human history (no you idiots, the planet isn't 4000 years old stop ready the fucking bible). Jesus is simple the personification of the SUN (not SON) as it passes through the astrological house of Pisces, YES STARS.
That's right mr... Your King James bible which has hundreds of miss-translations isn't a book on religion it has more to do with astrology then anything.
Infact things like "Bethlehem" arn't even supposed to be places on Earth but rather places in the sky. Bethlehem translates to "House of Bread" which is the symbol of Harvest and Wheat - which just happens to be the items the Virgin represents. By Virgin I mean VIRGO... They say the Son was born in Bethlehem... WRONG the SUN rose from the horizon right below the Sirius star after the 3 brightest stars of Orions' Belt aligned (curiously called the 3 wise-men). It ROSE in the Virgo constilation who's numerical symbol happens to be an M. Which explains why most virgin myths begin with M... Maya, Marry, Mises, ect ect.
Now I can go on for days about how the Christian religion is simply the worship of the SUN but then again I'm probably wrong and God only put all them' dinosaurs up to "test" us.
You might want to watch it with the way you explain things. For you to come out and tell somebody that what they beleive just simply isn't true and call them idiots for beleiving it doesnt really make you sound smart, it makes you sound like an arrogant prick. I am not a christian, and anybody who has ever studied history is able to point out the contradictions in christianity, but if it is what people want to beleive then let them do it, you are in no position to tell them they are wrong. And I really don't know where you got all this information about astrology and its connection to the terms of christianity, but i am pretty sure most of it is not true, or at least speculation.Quote:
Originally Posted by sXe Commish
I am not even Christian and your post pissed me off, only because you are an 18 year old trying to tell millions of people they are idiots for their beleifs. Yeah christianity is a bunch of Hypocritical BS but you are in no position to dictate to people where their religion came from nor are you in any position to tell them they are wrong. If you don't beleive it, thats fine, nobody is telling you too, but if others want to beleive it then that is their right and they don't need to be judged by people like you.
his post would have been better if it cited sources of his information, otherwise it's just his opinion with no supporting evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by mouseman004
wow is all i got on this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by sXe Commish
I agree, that post was insulting and disrespectfulQuote:
Originally Posted by mouseman004
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But he wasn't addicited.
I am new to Straight Edge.
So I don't know all the "rules"
But I am a strong believer in God.
The bible does say that God doesn't want you harming his palace. (your body)
and this uncludes drinking. But over drinking is what is really harming your body. not occasional glasses of wine.
I understand that sxe does not believe in drinking. But well,...I don't even know what to say. Personally yes I think drinking is totally wrong. But God is the ruler of all. And I follow after him with all my heart.
So why can't you be a Christian and Straight Edge?
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Maybe I shouldn't have written back to this.
But this is my opinion.
If you go back to page 1 and read through this thread, your questions will be answered multiple times.Quote:
Originally Posted by different// :)
You guys are right, I did post too agressively and was under alot of stress at the time.
But you all have to realise the hardship Christianity has caused me. I've done my research, I've read my books and studied in religion classes and I have made my choice. My family seems to think I'm a failure if I'm not Christian and I was harassed at my Christian school which is why I have so much hate for it.
But I do still stand by the stuff I said. And If you all want some sources then I would be more then happy to re-post what I said without attacks and insults and of course with my various sources.
I encourage you in the meantime to look up the life of Jesus and compare it to the life of Horus. The similarities should keep you busy while I write up something worth posting, unlike my last reply.
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Originally Posted by sXe Commish
attacks and insults are fine, but they should always be backed up by something.
Either way I need to learn to control my anger. I've just had so many Christians ruin so many of my days that I've developped somewhat of a hate for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsecx
And like previously said, I am only 18 and I can't be going around blabbing without some backup.
I'll come up with a nice little report you can all spend an afternoon reading which will hopefully clear my insults up into facts.
Of course you can. I see no conflicting values. I know I'm both. :p
Maybe you should read the 45 previous pages of this thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by ~*PunkPixyDust*~
Oh like I have that kind of attention span....or that much time. I'd lecture you but I'm losing focus aready...besides I'll always believe what I beleive. He asked and I gave my reply. I didn't expect anyone to agree or not with me. I don't really care. I just awnserd the queition.Quote:
Originally Posted by D1988
Please, lecture me.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~*PunkPixyDust*~
whats the point on joining a message board and posting in a thread about discussion if you are not gonna discuss? in fact you just answered a question with no back up, so you answer really sucks... i know you probably are going to say something like "whatever" or just excuse yourself from reading [wich goes back to the first like i wrote], so probably this post wont really do anything to you and you will just ignore it, but i felt that i should let you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~*PunkPixyDust*~
heres my two cence on it. if you think jesus is perfect youve never read the bible and you just base your opinion on what people tell you. he was half man (unpure) and half god (pure) so yes he was unperfect. especially as a child. he would screw up sometimes. everyone in the bible did. if you havent guessed yet im christian
so where in the bible, specifically did jesus screw up? If he wasn't perfect, then why would you worship him and why would be in a position to die for your sins?Quote:
Originally Posted by chadfitzy
when he was a kid he would disobay his parents and do normal human acts, such as fighting with other kids and things like this. we worship him because we believe he is the son of god and of man. i not trying to be a prick and force my religion on you if thats the way it comes off. if that is the way it comes of........sorry
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So where in the bible are these stories of how jesus was a "bad" and normal kid. And if your earlier post is true then the bible is nothing but lies and hipocrocy because jesus was supposed to be the the lamb without sin and the sacrifice for your sins. He died sinless so you didn't have to die for your sins.
See I remember Johna and the whale, Noha's Ark, David and Golith but not jesus the neighborhood bully beats up lil muhattma for stealing his favorite sandals.
How about some specific examples here. Give us vesrus to back this up!
hahaha, now thats a quote.Quote:
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funny thing is, thats not trueQuote:
Originally Posted by chadfitzy
so which verses were these?Quote:
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well : matthew 15:21 -28Quote:
Originally Posted by xsecx
otherwise known as the faith of the canaanite woman
in this he judges a woman falsely and has to be persuaded to heal her daughter.
- proof that jesus did make mistakes, (if you believe the bible that is.)
21Then Jesus went thence, and departed into the coasts of Tyre and Sidon.Quote:
Originally Posted by force majeure
22And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.
23But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.
24But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
25Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
26But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
27And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.
28Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.
That doesn't read to me that jesus made a mistake at all. What makes you think that?