Anarchy

[xKINGx]

Do we have any anarchists on here? I just figured I'd ask out of curiosity.

[xsobereyesx]

Do we have any anarchists on here? I just figured I'd ask out of curiosity.

yes i am fuck up the system that has bled us dry and start again...we will smash this shit up and re build brick by brick.

[rodrigo]

yes i am fuck up the system that has bled us dry and start again...we will smash this shit up and re build brick by brick.

how do you plan on doing that?

[straightXed]

yes i am fuck up the system that has bled us dry and start again...we will smash this shit up and re build brick by brick.

And what are you going to rebuild it as?

[xsobereyesx]

how do you plan on doing that?

by spreading the word and getting as many people behind me as possible strength in numbers init

[xsobereyesx]

And what are you going to rebuild it as?

one big mosh pit with junkies and haters 6 feet underneath us :)

[rodrigo]

by spreading the word and getting as many people behind me as possible strength in numbers init

that doesnt really answer what i asked you.

how do you pretend to smash it up?

[straightXed]

one big mosh pit with junkies and haters 6 feet underneath us :)

Doesn't sound like a workable system for so many reasons. Could you explain how this odd vision of anarchy would exactly work? Oh and who is "us"?

[lo0m]

and please define anarchy/anarchism..

[xsobereyesx]

Doesn't sound like a workable system for so many reasons. Could you explain how this odd vision of anarchy would exactly work? Oh and who is "us"?

sounds like a good enuff system to me... and "us" would be the ones left alive from the blood shed "us" the ones left standing after the world falls... "us" the ones left to take control... and all thats left will be music and good peolpe... MAN I SOUND FUCKING CRAZY O WELL

XXX STRAIGHT EDGE FOREVER XXX

[xsobereyesx]

that doesnt really answer what i asked you.

how do you pretend to smash it up?

i guess i could pretend to smash it up by running about with a stick in my hand going bang bang your dead like a little kid...

thats how you pretend to smash things init?? to be honest i dont realy want to pretend to smash things up when i can do it for real :)

[rodrigo]

i guess i could pretend to smash it up by running about with a stick in my hand going bang bang your dead like a little kid...

thats how you pretend to smash things init?? to be honest i dont realy want to pretend to smash things up when i can do it for real :)

how?

[straightXed]

sounds like a good enuff system to me... and "us" would be the ones left alive from the blood shed "us" the ones left standing after the world falls... "us" the ones left to take control... and all thats left will be music and good peolpe... MAN I SOUND FUCKING CRAZY O WELL

XXX STRAIGHT EDGE FOREVER XXX

So you expect the only ones to left to be those who follow straightedge and believe that everyone else should be dead. Seems like "us" is just you! How exactly do you figure this system will work. So far you have a mosh pit and lots of people dead. You want to kill the families of straightedge kids who's parents may smoke or drink, you think they will want part of this. What about ownership or laws, what are your proposed work around for that? I mean aren't even addressing the most common problems anarchy faces. Sounds like you have no idea what you are talking about at all and just think anarchy sounds cool.

[straightXed]

i guess i could pretend to smash it up by running about with a stick in my hand going bang bang your dead like a little kid...

thats how you pretend to smash things init?? to be honest i dont realy want to pretend to smash things up when i can do it for real :)

Try substituting the word pretend for intend

[rodrigo]

Try substituting the word pretend for intend

thanks ed!

[xsobereyesx]

So you expect the only ones to left to be those who follow straightedge and believe that everyone else should be dead. Seems like "us" is just you! How exactly do you figure this system will work. So far you have a mosh pit and lots of people dead. You want to kill the families of straightedge kids who's parents may smoke or drink, you think they will want part of this. What about ownership or laws, what are your proposed work around for that? I mean aren't even addressing the most common problems anarchy faces. Sounds like you have no idea what you are talking about at all and just think anarchy sounds cool.

na not at all man i was just messing about... whatever!!!

[straightXed]

na not at all man i was just messing about... whatever!!!

So you have no clue.

[xsobereyesx]

So you have no clue.

i know that anarchy is not be joked about but hay!!!

if the world was lawless then i think we should close down all the power plants and build solor power plans to save the enviroment because i realy care about this planet... i also think that the way the goverment run this contry is fucked up. they try to control everyone throught fear by using the media and drugs and alcohol play a big part in the media too and the drug and alcohol industrys make a larg amount of money that go into the goverments hands wich gets spent on bombs that kill inersent people most of the time. and the only reson the USA when to war it the first place was to get more oil and then sell off the oil to make more money to spend on bombs... SO YEAH I THINK ANARCHY IS A GOOD THING :)

[straightXed]

i know that anarchy is not be joked about but hay!!!

if the world was lawless then i think we should close down all the power plants and build solor power plans to save the enviroment because i realy care about this planet... i also think that the way the goverment run this contry is fucked up. they try to control everyone throught fear by using the media and drugs and alcohol play a big part in the media too and the drug and alcohol industrys make a larg amount of money that go into the goverments hands wich gets spent on bombs that kill inersent people most of the time. and the only reson the USA when to war it the first place was to get more oil and then sell off the oil to make more money to spend on bombs... SO YEAH I THINK ANARCHY IS A GOOD THING :)

Ok, so firstly, how will you organise these people to work to create a solar energy system with no law?

How will you address foo, health care and ammenities with now law?

I want to know how you propose to address the murder of all the innocent people in your view as you now seem concerned about innocent people?

How do you purpose to divide land, ownership and wealth?

How are you going to stop people making exploitive monopolies on certain services/resources with no law?

How will you address criminal fallout which would arise from this?

What has the USA got to do with your vision? Are you not proposing this view for the UK?

How would you propose protecting your country from others if you deplete defence and make the country a viable option to take over?

You mention USA's reasons for going to war...could you provide some factual evidence to support this alligation.

If USA did go to war order to secure a resource they need, how would you in your lawless state propose securing a resource you require?

How will you trade with other countries?

Or do you suppose that by elliminating law you will magically become self sufficiant?

This is just a few problems based on your post...i'm sure if we look further we will find many many more problems that your proposed system would need to address. But lets start here, if you could address these initial issues. Lets hope that your system which starts with mass genocide has some answers to these initial issues.

[xsobereyesx]

Ok, so firstly, how will you organise these people to work to create a solar energy system with no law?

How will you address foo, health care and ammenities with now law?

I want to know how you propose to address the murder of all the innocent people in your view as you now seem concerned about innocent people?

How do you purpose to divide land, ownership and wealth?

How are you going to stop people making exploitive monopolies on certain services/resources with no law?

How will you address criminal fallout which would arise from this?

What has the USA got to do with your vision? Are you not proposing this view for the UK?

How would you propose protecting your country from others if you deplete defence and make the country a viable option to take over?

You mention USA's reasons for going to war...could you provide some factual evidence to support this alligation.

If USA did go to war order to secure a resource they need, how would you in your lawless state propose securing a resource you require?

How will you trade with other countries?

Or do you suppose that by elliminating law you will magically become self sufficiant?

This is just a few problems based on your post...i'm sure if we look further we will find many many more problems that your proposed system would need to address. But lets start here, if you could address these initial issues. Lets hope that your system which starts with mass genocide has some answers to these initial issues.

yeah your right i would suck at starting a New World Order =) but hay if there was a riot i would be there...

[straightXed]

yeah your right i would suck at starting a New World Order =) but hay if there was a riot i would be there...

And hopefully you would get arrested. Not sure why you see rioting or killing people based on their life choices as a good thing but it fdefinitely makes you come accross as an idiot.

[xsobereyesx]

And hopefully you would get arrested. Not sure why you see rioting or killing people based on their life choices as a good thing but it fdefinitely makes you come accross as an idiot.

whatever!!!

[rodrigo]

whatever!!!

so i guess this means you won't answer mine or loom's question?

[CarlaRant]

whatever!!!

I find it interesting that you shut down with flippant remarks when someone questions your statements. Know that people here just want more substance. Not being able to fully explain your comments shows that you haven't given it much thought or are not committed to them, which is childish. Challenges = growth.

[straightXed]

whatever!!!

Good point, well made.

[xKINGx]

okay. i had no idea this topic would turn into such a patheic argument. the reason i asked is because I am an anarchist. but not for the reasons you might assume. it's not because I just dont like having a system to live under, but that very system is corrupt almost beyond understanding. the reason I choose anarchism is because if all government was abolished, it would truly be a world by the people, for the people. and we wouldnt have every penny sucked dry from us into the corrupt group of bankers that controls the government we see on TV. how we will go about ensuring that this is changed is simple. we must act before they do. the anarchists on here should know perfectly well what I mean. think about it logically people. There are things being hidden from us that we will not see until we open our eyes and see the truth for ourselves instead of beleiving every lie we are fed. for those of you that do not already know, look it up. it wont take you long. the internet is filled with the truth that is hidden from us by those that control the government. and if we dont do something to stop it, unimaginable things will happen to this country I used to love.

[rodrigo]

okay. i had no idea this topic would turn into such a patheic argument. the reason i asked is because I am an anarchist. but not for the reasons you might assume. it's not because I just dont like having a system to live under, but that very system is corrupt almost beyond understanding. the reason I choose anarchism is because if all government was abolished, it would truly be a world by the people, for the people. and we wouldnt have every penny sucked dry from us into the corrupt group of bankers that controls the government we see on TV. how we will go about ensuring that this is changed is simple. we must act before they do. the anarchists on here should know perfectly well what I mean. think about it logically people. There are things being hidden from us that we will not see until we open our eyes and see the truth for ourselves instead of beleiving every lie we are fed. for those of you that do not already know, look it up. it wont take you long. the internet is filled with the truth that is hidden from us by those that control the government. and if we dont do something to stop it, unimaginable things will happen to this country I used to love.

do you think that withouth a goverment people would just stop being corrupt?

[lo0m]

@xKINGx : ok, now look around you.. at your family, co-workers, friends and people you meet in local supermarket.. and tell me - how many of these people are ready for such change? i can feel and really understand your anger about the state of the world today. i am angry too. but face it - people are so focused on material things and can't nor want change this.. they like their prison and no wonder. look at any country where government suddenly disappeared and ordinary people were left to do what they wanted to. What happened were riots, rapes, murders, looting.. if any positive change was made, it was always strongly overshadowed by greed for power and material things and violence..
are governments corrupted? yes, they are. are international corporations lying to us? they surely do.. but as someone said.. "anarchy is a perfect system for perfect people".. and we're everything but perfect...

[xsecx]

okay. i had no idea this topic would turn into such a patheic argument. the reason i asked is because I am an anarchist. but not for the reasons you might assume. it's not because I just dont like having a system to live under, but that very system is corrupt almost beyond understanding. the reason I choose anarchism is because if all government was abolished, it would truly be a world by the people, for the people. and we wouldnt have every penny sucked dry from us into the corrupt group of bankers that controls the government we see on TV. how we will go about ensuring that this is changed is simple. we must act before they do. the anarchists on here should know perfectly well what I mean. think about it logically people. There are things being hidden from us that we will not see until we open our eyes and see the truth for ourselves instead of beleiving every lie we are fed. for those of you that do not already know, look it up. it wont take you long. the internet is filled with the truth that is hidden from us by those that control the government. and if we dont do something to stop it, unimaginable things will happen to this country I used to love.

what truth are you talking about? what's being hidden from us?

[mouseman004]

okay. i had no idea this topic would turn into such a patheic argument. the reason i asked is because I am an anarchist. but not for the reasons you might assume. it's not because I just dont like having a system to live under, but that very system is corrupt almost beyond understanding. the reason I choose anarchism is because if all government was abolished, it would truly be a world by the people, for the people. and we wouldnt have every penny sucked dry from us into the corrupt group of bankers that controls the government we see on TV. how we will go about ensuring that this is changed is simple. we must act before they do. the anarchists on here should know perfectly well what I mean. think about it logically people. There are things being hidden from us that we will not see until we open our eyes and see the truth for ourselves instead of beleiving every lie we are fed. for those of you that do not already know, look it up. it wont take you long. the internet is filled with the truth that is hidden from us by those that control the government. and if we dont do something to stop it, unimaginable things will happen to this country I used to love.

The government is made up of "people". So taking away government or order wouldn't get rid of the corrupt nature of people.

[straightXed]

okay. i had no idea this topic would turn into such a patheic argument. the reason i asked is because I am an anarchist. but not for the reasons you might assume. it's not because I just dont like having a system to live under, but that very system is corrupt almost beyond understanding. the reason I choose anarchism is because if all government was abolished, it would truly be a world by the people, for the people. and we wouldnt have every penny sucked dry from us into the corrupt group of bankers that controls the government we see on TV. how we will go about ensuring that this is changed is simple. we must act before they do. the anarchists on here should know perfectly well what I mean. think about it logically people. There are things being hidden from us that we will not see until we open our eyes and see the truth for ourselves instead of beleiving every lie we are fed. for those of you that do not already know, look it up. it wont take you long. the internet is filled with the truth that is hidden from us by those that control the government. and if we dont do something to stop it, unimaginable things will happen to this country I used to love.

I don't assume the reasons you are an anarchist but the reasons you list are the ones i would have wagered.

So we have this system that is corrupt almost beyond understanding and all these hidden truths yet they are also supposedly easy to find out...perhaps pointing to the truth would make it even easier and help your cause?

You mention that on TV we see bankers controlling governments but also suggest things are being hidden from us? Why is that, which seems to be the only reson you give for abolishing government, not hidden?

What are the lies that i am being fed? And how are the truths hidden if they are readily available on the internet? And what are the unimaginable things that will happen to your country?

If corruption is a disregard to law and government how would abolishing law and government make any difference?

How do you envision the system working? What would stop people taking ownership of things to barter and trade for goods from others? how would you control who has what and make things fair so people don't go without and get left behind as people push to get control of the most to survive?

[El Moro]

Not an Anarchist but I'm a Minarchist.

[mouseman004]

Not an Anarchist but I'm a Minarchist.

What is a minarchist?

[Doux]

a person who advocates minimal government... may also be known as minimal statism. It's kind of how i lean too.

also @ anarchists: Anarchy will never work. Plain and simple.

[El Moro]

What is a minarchist?

What Doux said.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minarchism

That's why I vote Libertarian.

http://www.lp.org/

[Doux]

i also am libertarian, but i really can't vote as such because i live in oklahoma... its a drag.

[El Moro]

i also am libertarian, but i really can't vote as such because i live in oklahoma... its a drag.

You don't have a Libertarian party?

[El Moro]

Actually you do.

http://oklp.org/

So why can't you vote?