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xmichaelxlilunx
07-31-2009, 01:31 AM
Im not a christian (im not good enough to be one! haha)
but i found something really interesting in the Bible which is pretty much the same as sXe

"Everything is permissible for meóbut not everything is beneficial. Everything is permissible for meóbut I will not be mastered by anything" (1 Corinthians 6:12)

"Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body" (1 Corinthians 6:19-20)

xsecx
07-31-2009, 09:17 AM
Im not a christian (im not good enough to be one! haha)
but i found something really interesting in the Bible which is pretty much the same as sXe

"Everything is permissible for meóbut not everything is beneficial. Everything is permissible for meóbut I will not be mastered by anything" (1 Corinthians 6:12)

"Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body" (1 Corinthians 6:19-20)

the bible is a crazy book though. Passages have to be looked at within context. the first one for instance was talking sexual morality, not sobriety. the second is contradicted by other texts where god gives people alcohol.

optimismdefeats
08-26-2009, 07:08 AM
When did God give people alcohol.. it does mention some people who get drunk yes, but shown in a negative light, condemned you could say.

There is wine but it's what you call grape juice these days, not modern wine. Also, alcohol is not mentioned, the word isn't in the bible.

i'd say anything that can affect you in a bad way should be totally avoided.

Hardcore is passion, enthusiasm and a good way to express yourself, values, beliefs and so on.

xsecx
08-26-2009, 08:54 AM
When did God give people alcohol.. it does mention some people who get drunk yes, but shown in a negative light, condemned you could say.

There is wine but it's what you call grape juice these days, not modern wine. Also, alcohol is not mentioned, the word isn't in the bible.

i'd say anything that can affect you in a bad way should be totally avoided.

Hardcore is passion, enthusiasm and a good way to express yourself, values, beliefs and so on.

the wedding at cana and the last supper, as examples. There was no condemnation of the drunken behavior at the wedding and in fact jesus supplied alcohol to people who were already drunk.

No, what they called wine then, is wine today. There really isn't historical reason to believe that it was some non alcoholic version. Most historians and theologians accept that when wine is mentioned in the bible, they weren't talking about grape juice.