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Esoteric
09-29-2005, 05:27 PM
How do you all feel about the wikipedia article on straight edge? Pretty accurate? If not, what parts did you find erroneous? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_edge
Thanks,
Esoteric

drughate_vegan
09-30-2005, 05:33 AM
that definition seems to be consentually true, except for the promiscuous sex part.
if you'd like, refer to:
http://sxe.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2912

xsecx
09-30-2005, 08:43 AM
that definition seems to be consentually true, except for the promiscuous sex part.
if you'd like, refer to:
http://sxe.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2912

what's funny is that it contradicts itself

"Straight edge tends to involve abstinence from (particularly casual) sex."

xsecx
09-30-2005, 08:50 AM
actually a shitload of it is inaccurate.

drughate_vegan
10-01-2005, 10:50 PM
actually a shitload of it is inaccurate.
like what?

xsecx
10-03-2005, 09:00 AM
like what?

"Straight edge, also known as sXe, is a lifestyle and (counter cultural) subculture, closely associated with punk or hardcore punk music in the United States,"

contradicts

"The relationship between straight-edge and punk (and hardcore) music is such that a small minority of adherents hold that straight-edge cannot exist separately from the music scene."


the fact that straight edge isn't associated with punk at all.

"Straight-edgers also have reservations about medication (particularly psychoactive drugs), which they generally eschew."

is completely wrong.

the entire section on spirituality is wrong and unnecessary.

"Some people believe the three Xs are short for Body, Mind and Soul, although three Xs have also been used as an abreviation of Hardcore (Straight-Edge)"

never even heard this before

"What was once a peaceful movement against drug use in the punk scene has often targeted alcohol and drug-using punk rockers, as well as those seen to be "weak" by the group. The music has largely transformed from its hardcore punk roots into a much-harder metal-based music with a very strong "us against them" attitude and an emphasis on "toughness" and fighting."

This isn't even close to being historically accurate. THe us against them attitude has existed since the beginning.


"However, there exists evidence that the term "straight-edge" being used to indicate a vegetarian or vegan lifestyle dates as far back as the 1900's. According to posts on both BoingBoing [1] and Beatrice.com [2], there was a vegetarian restaurant called "Straight Edge Kitchen" in New York City's Greenwich Village at that time, and a set of illustrations in a 1906 issue of the New York World newspaper shows a group of "Straight-Edgers" eating at a vegetarian restaurant. [3]"

this is dubious at best and completely irrelevant.

Esoteric
10-06-2005, 04:52 PM
Much Thanks, Dusty.