die Aversion
07-02-2005, 04:31 PM
"Hi" to everybody on this forum,
since I'm going to start to write my thesis in August/September, I'm having a couple of questions of which I hope you are so kind as to answer. The thesis itself is about consumerism in contemporary American culture. Although I'm supposed to focus on contemporary literature (Ellis, Palahniuk, Frantzen), I'd like to include a part dealing with consumerism and subculture, since I'm really quite fond of the concept of subculture and the possibilities it (theoretically) offers. As far as I oversee it by now, there are no secondary sources on hardcore, and thus I turn to you directly, hoping for some help. (If there are sources, would you be so kind as to tell me?)
Concerning the music, I was into hardore only few years during the late nineties, and as a result, my image of hardcore is both comparably superficial and blurred at the same time. Judging from the experiences I made in Germany and according to my image of it (and how I remember the appearance/image both musicians and fans conveyed), it is the subculture, which rejects consumerism most, is the most immune one to trends and to being turned into a mainsream phenomenon (which is all connected to each other, in fact). On the opposite pole on an imaginary "consumerism scale" I see hiphop with its blunt materialism, and all the other subcultures (gothic, neofolk, industrial, punk, skin) somewhere inbetween.
What I'm interested in is, whether there are (were) any fashions in hardcore, nevertheless? With fashion I don't only mean clothes, but topics or aesthetics in general. Are there certain "hardcore clothing labels"? What I experienced in gothic, industrial and neofolk is an "official" rejection of the idea of art being an commodity, but at the same time, limited editions of albums are forsale for an incredible ammount of money. Does such a thing or anything comparable exist in hardcore?
I have the theory that due to hardcore's (relative) resistance to fashions (where may this come from, and why isn't this feature owned by other subcultures?), it is so difficult to turn it into a cliché, and thus to turn it into a mainstream phenomenon destined to be sold out. Do you agree?
Well, I guess, these are enough questions for the moment. I hope, I haven't annoyed or anyone or got on anyone's nerves'.
Bye,
Your aversion
since I'm going to start to write my thesis in August/September, I'm having a couple of questions of which I hope you are so kind as to answer. The thesis itself is about consumerism in contemporary American culture. Although I'm supposed to focus on contemporary literature (Ellis, Palahniuk, Frantzen), I'd like to include a part dealing with consumerism and subculture, since I'm really quite fond of the concept of subculture and the possibilities it (theoretically) offers. As far as I oversee it by now, there are no secondary sources on hardcore, and thus I turn to you directly, hoping for some help. (If there are sources, would you be so kind as to tell me?)
Concerning the music, I was into hardore only few years during the late nineties, and as a result, my image of hardcore is both comparably superficial and blurred at the same time. Judging from the experiences I made in Germany and according to my image of it (and how I remember the appearance/image both musicians and fans conveyed), it is the subculture, which rejects consumerism most, is the most immune one to trends and to being turned into a mainsream phenomenon (which is all connected to each other, in fact). On the opposite pole on an imaginary "consumerism scale" I see hiphop with its blunt materialism, and all the other subcultures (gothic, neofolk, industrial, punk, skin) somewhere inbetween.
What I'm interested in is, whether there are (were) any fashions in hardcore, nevertheless? With fashion I don't only mean clothes, but topics or aesthetics in general. Are there certain "hardcore clothing labels"? What I experienced in gothic, industrial and neofolk is an "official" rejection of the idea of art being an commodity, but at the same time, limited editions of albums are forsale for an incredible ammount of money. Does such a thing or anything comparable exist in hardcore?
I have the theory that due to hardcore's (relative) resistance to fashions (where may this come from, and why isn't this feature owned by other subcultures?), it is so difficult to turn it into a cliché, and thus to turn it into a mainstream phenomenon destined to be sold out. Do you agree?
Well, I guess, these are enough questions for the moment. I hope, I haven't annoyed or anyone or got on anyone's nerves'.
Bye,
Your aversion